Yup agree... This isn't the show to go to if you want deep cuts. Like others have said, it's a greatest hits show for all of them, and a big payday.
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Yup. I was at this show, and while Sammy's voice is still kicking ass for a 74 year old, it is starting to show some wear and tear....as one would understandably expect.
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Was at that show Saturday night. It's always a good, fun show to watch. They sounded damn good too.
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Oh ya, I agree. And, they aren't stupid, they use a vocal track where he sounds fair, not great, so you are under the impression that it's live and not too good. At this point, it is what it is.
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No shocker, everyone who cares to know, has known this for years. KISS was and is always about the spectacle almost more than the music itself, and the people that are going to see them on this "100th" Farewell tour are willing to accept it for what it is. Like many other topics...the diehard-types complain, while the other 95% don't care.
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Ya, couldn't make it through the chorus. Neither of the first 2 singles do anything for me, or would cause me to run out and get the CD when it comes out.
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I loved the debut, and some great tracks on the follow up. Would be interested in something new from Freddy and Steve, but no idea if they have any interest or if there's enough overall fan interest to take the time to do something.
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I like the song... vocals seem low in the mix, especially during the chorus.
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I don't disagree, I was just addressing your question about knowing his voice was shot, why go out... They figured the tapes would work...oops!
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I'd guess because they knew going in, they could try to use the tapes for most, if not all of the show, and they were successful doing it until they were basically outted by sound guys when they were in Sweden. Even Cain, who didn't need them, was using a canned vocal for Every Generation.
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I'd guess the new Europe will end up being in 2023 not 2022... John Leven in a recent interview, said they have some songs, but haven't decided on a producer or booked any studio time... With touring over the summer, I don't think they'll have time. 2023, also marks their 40th anniversary, so they may try to capitalize on that a bit.
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To each their own and as mentioned, and I prefer Augeri's vocals and that maybe why I lean towards them. I agree the production is far better on the next go-around, but I thought both tracks sounded more laid back/wimpier rerecorded compared to the originals.
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Agree. I saw them with the Scorpions in Vegas, and I he was excellent.
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Wow, maybe I'm in the minority, but don't agree at all with you guys. The rawer production of FITH and PIYH on Generations is far better to me than the rerecorded ones. The redos to me are far weaker and don't have the energy that the originals had. I also prefer Augeri's vocals to Arnels.
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Nik... I totally get what you're saying and agree that it isn't THAT diverse. I guess what my point was is that if you're going in thinking you're not going to like it because it doesn't sound exactly like Pyro or Hysteria DL, you probably aren't going to ever be happy with anything they put out now. That said, if you like some of the material they've put out post Pyro and Hysteria-you'll find
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As expected, a lot of opinions. First, I'll say that I think it's a lot better than the last couple albums, and I am enjoying the different styles, but it shouldn't be a surprise, Joe and Phil have both said there are a lot of different styles on the album. Take What You Want is probably my favorite overall track and still trying to digest some of the others I like to put in the top 3-5 overa
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Problem for them was that they didn't write a number of those big hits, and while those 3 albums made them huge, the sisters never have a good thing to say about that era since it wasn't the original formula for the band, or their exact vision. DWO was a huge disappointment for me, but in retrospect...besides lack of good songs, the music climate was changing, and they were changing with it.
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Man...I always liked Lights & Shadows with it's heavier, darker tone.
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Wow that sucks. Sounds like they tossed the horns on nothing more than a loop with average vocals. I casted Chicago off a while ago, and this didn't do anything to make me want to rethink that.
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Ya you certainly can see where Norum's head is at and which songs he heavily influenced on the newer Europe albums.. All the darker, mid-tempo, tracks that all sound the same.
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Have to agree... I was really into Chicago for a long time with the late 90's/2000's lineup live, but lost interest as soon as Champlin bailed or got fired, take your pick. Egos with the original guys, especially Pankow seem to get a bit out of control at times and out guys go. I enjoy their entire body of work, but also started getting tired of pretty much the same setlist every tour, almost fo
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Norum hasn't done a FTT type solo album since...well...FTT. He's consistently updated his sound... I'd love another FTT style, but that's not gonna happen.
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Paul Taylor has been with them as well on a lot of the dates over the last couple years.
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He plays most of the solo note for note... he goes off and does his own thing at the end...unfortunately. Gotta give it to Kee Marcello on that one, he nailed a perfect solo for that song.
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Agree with you guys... underrated...but really good. A song like Forever Traveling gives a nice nob to the past, while others are a good mix of them with a updated, contemporary sound.
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One of my faves. I think it suffers from being "too polished" but there are some good tracks there and a nice follow up to TFC, albeit without as much fanfare.
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Not last night or on this tour, but I've seen all these bands live in the current incarnations in recent years, minus WS's new bass player, and I'd agree on some points. I’ve seen a number of the YT vids from this tour, so still feel I can share my 2 cents. The Europe guys (not JT) have never really run around the stage like some of the Foreigner guys do. Norum and Leven aren't using wirel
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I like the "singles" from SSTF, but the rest of the album left me pretty cold, and I'm a huge Europe guy.
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PIP for me too from the first go around of albums. I liked the heavier edge, and some of the demos that didn't make it (due to the record company) are pretty darn good too.
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Terry, I think they just put a guitar in the singer Neil's hands for that song for the sake of it.. It doesn't even really look like he's playing. With the exception of the 3 originals still around, there's been a decent amount of turnover since Bill Champlin left, for various reasons. Not the best video, but can't say it does anything for me.
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