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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
DEP Sessions is the formal release that once was termed "Eighth Star" in Sabbath bootleg trading circles. So if it has a demo feel, it's because the songs weren't initially slated for release (I think Tony wasn't completely comfortable with them, at least at the time, and wasn't sure what to market them under). Fused is an excellent release, top to bottom. Great production, although
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Creeping Death - Metallica Gloria - U2 The Choice - Wayne (EX-Metal Church)
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
You are right. They were probably not a heavy metal band -- they were the quintessential heavy metal band. If you grew up in the 80's, Def Leppard was the band that metal heads were listening to while everyone else was listening to Hall & Oates and Madonna. They had long hair, they screamed, the screeching guitar solos.. music your mom couldn't stand listening to. As a New Wave of British
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
If Def Leppard were successful on the backs of songs like "Now", "When Love & Hate Collide" and "Nine Lives," then I suppose you would have an argument. The fact of the matter is that Def Leppard made their mark as a creative force with songs like Photograph, Rock of Ages, Armageddonit, and Pour Some Sugar on Me. It's that simple. Even Love Bites is heavy meta
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Sad that we actually consider this a "heavy" Def Leppard song. Heavy pop? It's certainly not metal, which I don't think is a surprise. Given the huge successes of Ratt and Accept (among others) you'd think they'd come around. The last time they did metal was on Hysteria (with some exceptions on Adrenalize and Euphoria). It's not a bad song, I suppose, but nothing that I would wan
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
It's about 3 songs too long, but a good record, for sure.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I don't understand what you're saying. It seems like you are suggesting that the music industry should be supporting bands like Whitesnake over Spears. I don't really understand why?
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
You would have thought with a major label release they could have stuck the lyrics in there...
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Yeah Take you for a ride is very Boston influenced. One thing you didn't mention is that the solo on Do you believe in RocknRoll is Ace Frehley circa 1975. Fantastic stuff! BUT the cool thing about all of this is that the music still comes off as Bad City and not some tribute band. They have a unique sound. Great cd end to end. A rarity.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Ay.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Could someone e-mail me the .wav of this song? I own this cd, and all things Boston, but it's in my storage unit at the moment. Would appreciate the favor. Thanks! You can send it to markkaminskimr@hotmail.com.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
1. Martin is already involved with a project (called Black). 2. Doesn't want to play under the Sabbath banner, although he wouldn't rule out working with Tony. 3. Tony and Geezer will most likely be looking for a new singer. I wouldn't say never but I wouldn't bet on it.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Let me know if anyone wants a copy of this cd. Lightly used. $5 plus shipping.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I prefer it mixed up, actually.. whether it's an official release or something I make up. Occasionally I do it in chronological order.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Agreed.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Single cds/45s did not cost $16. That was the price for the entire cd/lp. If you just wanted a couple songs, you could get them. Yes digital technology has now allowed all the songs to be released as a single, as it were. That's a good thing. I'm not disputing that benefit, and if that was all that is happening, I wouldn't have an issue with it. But that is not what is happening. To think peopl
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
"The music industry didn't help itself by putting out so much cack in the past, and now it just wants short term contracts with the latest R&B, or kiddie pop sensation, and doesn't allow artists to develop anymore." And with what money should the music industry develop talent? With the money stolen by consumers? Ahh.. got it.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I'm sorry but it is completely disingenuous to think music fans were thinking to themselves, ALL THIS TIME, that: "You know, I don't like any of the hits, or most of the rest of the album, for that matter... but, I REALLY dig that one deep-album track!" That's just nonsense -- back then people didn't think that way to any significant degree. To do so now is just self-justification fo
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Beth - Kiss
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
What years did you work for the label? I would like to see the "hand over fist" profits you run on about, and compare it to the returns in other industries (such as video games, film, as but some obvious examples). I doubt they were much different at all. For someone who works for a label, you should know that most of the costs to the company aren't manufacturing costs of the cds. Und
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Well, what do you mean by "obscene" profits? I think they were getting about the normal rate of return on the billion dollars they invested in the industry. Obscene profits would drive millionaires around the world to start up their own record company and "exploit" everyone. It didn't happen. Obscene profits, to me, suggests record companies were somehow protected by the gove
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I agree. What is often lost in all this is that recording costs have fallen like a rock. There are also many new outlets to get music across to the consumer. But at the end of the day, music will only persist if people actually pay for it. Record companies weren't making "obscene" profits. But what has happened is now they can't invest in bands and patiently watch them develop. They
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
What does it matter how much it costs to make a cd? People - despite their gripes - were happy to pay $16 for a cd. Do you think they were forced to pay $16?? People laid down good money because they were happy with the product. For the price of lunch you got a CD that lasted forever. But then stealing music became possible with the advent of the internet and file sharing. Stealing was attracti
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Your reviews and "melodicrock"'s reviews are two different things entirely. If someone wants to read a review they can go to amazon. I don't think the readership here wants to read any kind of review written by anybody.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Another possibility is, of course, consecrate some of the site's longtime members/contributors to do detailed reviews occasionally. Some sites even offer multiple reviews of the same record in the event there is significant division in views between the reviewers, or the record is especially notable. Just an idea.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Thanks Robby. Yeah, BAM is autotuned (for effect, as you mention). To me, her songs typically aren't this way relative as other artists. Have you heard Shakespeare? I would be interested in hearing the autotune here . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRLNthsf3rA&feature=related In general, what is practically different from a non-obvious autotune versus a singer splicing in a word or phrase
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I don't hear the auto-tuning (save for Katy Perry), but I guess I'm not an expert on the subject. I know these acts come across pretty good in a live setting. When you talk of auto-tuning I think of Kesha, Perry, Hilary, Miley, etc... singers with very average singing talent. In any case, to be quite honest, I much, MUCH prefer auto-tuning to some sort of cookie monster vocal, which seems to be
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
The title was largely a spin on Avril's "Best Damn Thing" but yeah, I know it could be interpreted in a different way :) Cosgrove has a new record out tomorrow if you're interested.. :p
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
Never said Orianthi was teen pop. The thread was on teen pop and top40. In any case, it's not a stretch to think those who listen to Cosgrove, Avril, Miley, Hilary, etc, would enjoy listening to Orianthi.
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11 years ago
Cato Alumni
I don't skip songs so, for an album to be in my collection, it needs to be consistent throughout. I usually don't render judgment on a cd until after 10+ listens. Growers are the best records because you never get tired of them. Some of my favorite records I disliked or didn't understand any of the songs when I first listened to them.
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