I'm with Debbie - I've a Creative Zen M-Vision 60gb that has been used practically every day since I bought it four years ago. And apart from one visit to a repair shop, when I dropped it on the floor of a shop in Nottingham (during Firefest weekend, ironically), it's been a marvel. And from what I've heard, it has a superior sound quality to anything Apple have come up.

When mine eventually give up the ghost, I'll be sure to stick to Creative next time. But it does drive me mad at how everything is i-Pod/Phone geared - docking stations, etc. It's extraordinary how monopolised the market is.

M



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