Hey you have got me wrong!!I was one on the previous Dream Theater post that sang their praises,i love Dream Theater and have 9 of their albums.The only point i was trying to make was maybe some of these other bands would be 'easier' for people who think Dream Theater are too complicated.And yes all these other bands probably would'nt exsist without DT,not trying to say these bands are better then DT.Although they are the pioneers of prog metal there are some other bands in this genre worth listening to as mentioned in my original post although you obviously are'nt a fan of Outworld!lol.