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Re: Why do rock acts still rely on labels ?
Posted by: DCPete ()
Date: November 01, 2006 09:16PM

Nick,

You make a lot of good points particularly for us smaller bands, the options are very limited indeed. The product has to be in the hands of the record label for them to even consider releasing it nowadays unless you are an established act...they don't take chances anymore...hence the product funded by a band is always naturally gonna be of a sub standard. Touring however with a named act is never an easy task with or without label support.

When we (Formerly Double Cross) came across our first deal there was indeed an advance given that covered us recording the debut album (again recorded & mixed/produced ourselves) & there was "options" for "buy ons" which is how we supported Styx last year on their UK tour...However the "buy on" rather small, the costs of touring left the band several thousands of pounds in debt despite shifting large amounts of merchandise... We roadied ourselves but had to pay for front of house 36 channel desk with sound engineer plus all on stage monitoring & desk plus additional sound engineer to make it happen...& debt funded solely by the band that subsequently left us out of pocket.

To date we have sold in excess of 5500 albums & played to some 15000 people over 10 gigs.

Have we made ANY money...NO.... Did the label...who knows???... but they folded shortly afterwards? .....would we do it all over again though with possibly the same outcome.....hell yeah!

Bands do sometimes take risks....however they almost never really pay off! But the experience of it all is & was totally priceless!

Cheers,

Pete.

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