Very true - they had an arena tour with Cherone but it got cancelled, but nowt after that - even with the last DLR going Top 10 and Download chasing them to headline. Friends went to the Foo Fighters/ Hawkins tribute gig and reckoned very few knew what the VH bit was about. Hagar probably should have done a fest like Maid Of Stone or Steelhouse to re-establish himself before plunging into arenas