Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland)
Posted by: Laurent ()
Date: June 24, 2013 09:51PM

I believe you are somewhat naive in thinking that this is the extra money that keeps them on the road. How many VIP packages do you get per show? A tiny portion of the venues capacity. This extra charge does not compromise a whole tour, and certainly not for a band like Toto that still have a very strong appeal in Europe.

I don't know how much you paid. Let's say that the normal price would be around 100 CHF. You sell 100 VIP packages at CHF 500, that's 100 x CHF 400 extra, i.e. CHF 40,000. I am not saying it is small change but Toto could tour in Europe regardless as they have been packing arenas for years. Now, did they sell 100? How many of you were there? 20?

Now, on the other end why should the band get an additonal 40 Grand to do what they should do anyway, i.e. thank their fans and take the time to meet them?! That's where I really do have a problem. Big time. What's next? When I will be meeting them next time at a club gig in L.A. will they charge me an additional 20 bucks to shake their hands? I am exaggerating, but you get the point.

I used to go to the Hallenstadion or the Volkshaus all the time when I was living in Zurich. I never had a problem either seeing a band after the gig, or knowing in which hotel they were staying if I really wanted to meet them.

To me it goes beyond the economics of things. It is an ethical thing to do. Concert tickets are expensive enough without charging a fortune for VIP packages. Where I agree with you is that as long as people are ready to pay, the offer will stay. On the other hand, you can not milk a cow endlessly. When you see that it works, what are you going to do? VVIP packages? Until the time where the basic package to attend a gig will be the VIP package price without most of its benefits? Then you will see if people will continue to be able to afford concerts, and whether bands will still be touring. It's the same old story: if you pull too strongly on the elastic, it might break. It is about greed.

I am not a fan of Kid Rock, but his recent initiative to put a ceiling on tickets for his gigs is great. That might be an unrealistic way to go on the long run, but it is worth trying.

For the future on live music, my opinion is that VIP packages and other tricks will kill, or at least negatively impact concert attendance.

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My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 862 lordreo 06/24/2013 12:54PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 466 the ORIGINAL brent 06/24/2013 01:24PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 426 Laurent 06/24/2013 05:18PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 489 Andrew 06/24/2013 07:03PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 371 Laurent 06/24/2013 08:23PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 263 Doug Wolfgang 06/25/2013 12:56AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 314 LilKing22 06/24/2013 08:12PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 304 Addyeddy 06/24/2013 08:34PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 346 lordreo 06/24/2013 09:08PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland)366 Laurent 06/24/2013 09:51PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 318 lordreo 06/24/2013 10:43PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 245 Shade 06/24/2013 11:24PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 241 Peter M. Bietenholz 06/25/2013 12:00AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 179 Laurent 06/25/2013 04:08PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 251 Laurent 06/25/2013 04:16PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 264 Gav1 06/25/2013 03:26AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 280 Andrew 06/25/2013 08:18AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 230 juliocruz 06/25/2013 07:49AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 212 2_EdgedSword 06/25/2013 07:39AM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 226 the ORIGINAL brent 06/25/2013 09:36AM
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Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 203 Terry K. 06/25/2013 12:47PM
Re: My Toto VIP experience (06/23/13, Hallenstadion/Switzerland) 163 lordreo 06/26/2013 09:00AM
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