Re: HORSESHIT
Posted by: nivjourney ()
Date: April 05, 2013 11:24PM

gary191265 Wrote:


> You get a lot of stick because you forget which
> aspect of you is on here a lot if the time.
> Professional site owner/journalst, or rabid MR
> fanboy making shit comments regarding dead
> musicians, calling out musicians for being
> 'assholes' without doing any background work to
> ascertain whether stories regarding them are true
> etc.
>
> You can't be all things to all men, you're either
> the site owner or everyone's best buddy, you can't
> be both. Probably the best answer would be to let
> someone else moderate the board, it would probably
> result in more people getting banned but would
> also be more even-handed.


See that's been the bit that "got my back up", as it were.
It's perfectly ok to slag people off or be a complete twat, if you're on the right side of the argument, or you put a smiley face or say "hey it was just a joke" after. But if you're on the opposite side of the argument, then you're the dick, how dare you, it's HORSESHIT! or whatever...
Like on the Nirvana topic, where me saying actually, they were a good band, and although their time was short, they were revolutionary and changed the face of music, which is exactly what music needed at the time, made me a twat who knows nothing and a traitor to all things AOR... but someone else saying "Kurt Cobain putting a gun in his mouth and blowing his brains out was the best thing that happened to music" was perfectly acceptable and glazed over.
Or more recently, Bobby Kimball (who has rarely given interviews and has kept a fairly low profile since his split from Toto about 5 years ago) was pretty cool about Lukather aside from a bit of a dig about him getting arrested by air marshalls because he was off his face. Andrew leaps to Lukather's defence and says "it's time Lukather has his say!"... When for the past 5 years, where Lukather has been quite prolific with solo albums, solo tours and Toto tours, Lukather has done nothing but crap all over Bobby for being crazy or not being able to sing every chance he get's. But Lukather is cool with Andrew and Bobby hasn't delivered a promised track for a MR Compilations or something... so straight away, sides were taken.
So it's all well and good saying Gary is talking horseshit and threatening to ban him too... but he's right.
I don't have a grudge or anything personal against you, Andrew, but I have the exact same opinion formed by my own mind through years of reading this site... with some musicians and posters you want to be their best mate and champion everything they do, for others you want to be a board moderator or selective about what information of their's is shared because they are not the muso's you are in with or have a personal issue with.
You might not think that's the case, but it's the way it looks... and it makes it harder to respect a journalistic opinion because of it.
Said without malice or any ill intent... just a spectator to all this...
Niv

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