With Mindcrime they actually went mainstream. Empire, too.

That's not to say they're bad albums, far from it, but they are mainstream hard rock. Rage For Order was something else entirely. Promised Land too, to a lesser degree.

Rage... is easily, easily, their best album.

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Always takin', Always fakin', Ignorance is so frustrating.

"I've done the math enough to know the dangers of our second guessing...."