PETE TOWNSHEND GETS THE FINAL WORD...
Posted by: Captain Can Man ()
Date: February 23, 2013 03:29AM

Thanks Debbie. I don't appreciate the definitions. That was a waste of your time and quite insulting towards me.

I do appreciate your taking the time to post some of Jack's statements about the fire though. That was very informative and I wished this had been posted when the thread first started.


I don't know if you saw my post with Pete Townshend's comments years later about how he and his band acted after the 11 people were trampled at their concert in Cinncinnati. You and I and the rest of the people on this board have never been in a position like Jack and Pete were. So we can speculate all day long about what woulda, coulda, shoulda, happened but Pete's words of remorse about the way he handled it trumps anything you and I are saying. This man's words are the only important comments in this entire thread because he is the only one that lived it. I bolded some of the lines that I really want to sink in.You need to realize that you guys are saying the exact same type of things that Pete Townshends "advisors" were telling him at the time.


TOWNSHEND: I was drinking so hard at the time I wasn't conscious of what I was saying. And I said some dumb things. I said some things that hurt the victims' families. I remember saying, "It seems that everybody wants us to shed the theatrical tear and to say 'sorry.' Whereas what we have to do is go on. "The fact is that we didn't have to go on. We could have stopped, and I think we should have stopped. We should have stopped the tour.

PLAYBOY: Why didn't you?

TOWNSHEND: I don't quite know why we didn't. I suppose we didn't, to put it bluntly, because there was too much money at stake. It would have been a big legal mess to cancel tour dates, but we should have. It's obvious that we should have stopped. The idea that "We're going to Buffalo and we're doing this for those kids" was rubbish. The kids were gone. We then should have attended to the families. We should have stayed in Cincinnati. It looked as if we had gone in like commandos, created this havoc, then fucked off to do the same things somewhere else. Our advisors, our lawyers and everybody else were just completely wrong, inhuman and stupid. Everybody was stupid--the record company, the manager, my lawyer, the fans-- they were all stupid, completely stupid. Never, ever have I come across a chunk of humanity as stupid as the people with whom I interrelated. As I sat on top of all those stupid people as Mr. King Stupid. I mean, we had to go on for rock and roll? What shit! It's like Wayne's World, "Rock and roll!" That's what we did after Cincinnati. "Rock and roll!" Eleven kids dead, but what the fuck?



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