A different perspective...
Posted by: Steve_Roamer ()
Date: December 22, 2012 10:30PM

I have read this thread with interest. Mitch is clearly never going to agree with the idea of banning semi-automatic weapons from the general public but I thought I'd add couple of observations from other countries.

New Zealand (my current domicile) openly sells guns. It freaked me out to see a major gun store next to a toy shop and opposite a pet store and still does to an extent. However, buying a gun is not easy. To get a license you have to have background checks which consider criminal, mental, medical, addiction and domestic violence and interviews are conducted with an applicant's spouse, partner, or next of kin before issuing a gun licence. Ownership for self-defence is strictly prohibited. Guns are allowed for hunting and little else really.

In Denmark (my previous domicile) applicants for a gun owner’s licence have to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, hunting, target shooting, collection; and pass background checks which consider criminal and mental records.

In the Uk (my birthplace) background checks are also required, as is a genuine reason and third party references. Handguns and semiautomatic weapons are prohibited for common use.

This site was useful to get details on gun regulations: www.gunpolicy.org.

Someone intent enough on getting an illegal weapon will most likely be able to get one, just as someone intent on killing a large number of people with a bomb will. I just don't think making it easy to get one exactly helps matters, and I think that is borne out by the frequency of shootings in schools reported globally: www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html. The US lead the world in this sad statistic.

I'm not a US citizen and don't really understand the deep-seated compulsion on many towards their right to own a gun. I don't feel relaxed around any kind of firearm. However, even accepting this as a right, I still don't understand why anyone outside the armed or justice forces should have access to a firearm capable of firing 30 shots in 30 seconds. If they were not available, perhaps a few more of the children tragically killed at Sandy Hook and all the other schools where shootings had been seen would be alive now.

My thoughts to all those affected in this terrible tragedy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 10:31PM by Steve_Roamer.



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Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 537 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 03:51AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 527 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 03:58AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 514 Tony Bainbridge 12/22/2012 03:58AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 479 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 04:01AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 482 Andrew 12/22/2012 08:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 433 Leet2607 12/22/2012 04:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 444 Coco 12/22/2012 04:22AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 478 JMac 12/22/2012 04:29AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 430 Coco 12/22/2012 04:35AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 452 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 04:37AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 438 Coco 12/22/2012 04:38AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 437 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 04:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 392 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:18AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 399 Coco 12/22/2012 07:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 424 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:17AM
Re: Liberals 403 rocknut 12/22/2012 09:13PM
Re: Liberals 387 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:17AM
Re: Liberals 322 rocknut 12/23/2012 06:34AM
Re: Liberals 429 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:35AM
Re: Liberals 380 rocknut 12/23/2012 06:52AM
Re: Liberals 380 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:57AM
Re: Liberals 366 rocknut 12/23/2012 07:01AM
Re: Liberals 334 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:03AM
FBI STATS 328 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:09AM
Re: FBI STATS 333 stryper 12/23/2012 06:38PM
Re: FBI STATS 334 Snake65 12/23/2012 11:49PM
Re: FBI STATS 327 Coco 12/24/2012 12:27AM
Re: FBI STATS 352 SNorander 12/25/2012 03:48AM
Re: FBI STATS 270 Troy 12/25/2012 04:53AM
Re: FBI STATS 279 SNorander 12/25/2012 05:17AM
Re: FBI STATS 284 Troy 12/25/2012 05:28AM
Re: FBI STATS 374 Coco 12/25/2012 05:24AM
Re: FBI STATS 283 Snake65 12/26/2012 02:41AM
Re: FBI STATS 297 Coco 12/26/2012 03:37AM
Re: FBI STATS 283 Snake65 12/26/2012 07:18AM
Re: FBI STATS 310 Ross S. 12/25/2012 04:27AM
Re: Liberals 397 rocknut 12/23/2012 07:15AM
Re: Liberals 369 Coco 12/23/2012 07:18AM
Re: Liberals 365 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:20AM
Re: Liberals 297 Gav1 12/23/2012 12:43PM
Re: Liberals 306 Coco 12/23/2012 08:11PM
Re: Liberals 242 Walk In The Shadows 12/23/2012 11:13PM
Re: Liberals 271 SNorander 12/25/2012 03:39AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 405 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:20AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 391 JMac 12/22/2012 07:41AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 417 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:43AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 338 JMac 12/22/2012 08:02AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 344 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:06AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 304 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 08:36AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 328 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:56AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 389 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:15AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 316 Mitch 12/22/2012 09:20AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 303 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:25AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 389 JMac 12/22/2012 07:49AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 385 rocknut 12/22/2012 05:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 376 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 05:09AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 408 Troy 12/22/2012 05:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 358 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 383 Troy 12/22/2012 06:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 375 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:43AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 377 Troy 12/22/2012 07:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 329 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 321 Coco 12/22/2012 07:12AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 333 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:16AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 366 Coco 12/22/2012 07:24AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 368 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 347 Coco 12/22/2012 07:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 338 Troy 12/22/2012 08:18AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 368 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 327 Troy 12/22/2012 08:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 366 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:36AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 353 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:22AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 356 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:25AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 404 Coco 12/22/2012 08:35AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 352 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 373 Coco 12/22/2012 10:05PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 302 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 337 Terry K. 12/23/2012 06:26AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 354 Coco 12/23/2012 07:12AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 364 AndyC 12/22/2012 11:21PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 347 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 329 AndyC 12/22/2012 09:40PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 363 Terry K. 12/23/2012 12:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 295 AndyC 12/23/2012 01:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 337 gary191265 12/23/2012 01:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 349 Scott Watson 12/22/2012 07:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 350 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:11AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 340 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 08:00AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 310 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 328 Troy 12/22/2012 08:13AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 326 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:15AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 377 Troy 12/22/2012 09:37AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 295 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 288 Troy 12/23/2012 06:47AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 337 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:55AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 302 Troy 12/23/2012 07:59AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 279 Troy 12/23/2012 08:09AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 273 stryper 12/23/2012 06:49PM
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Re: GUNS and BOATS and LIES 451 Troy 12/23/2012 02:02PM
Re: GUNS and BOATS and LIES 284 stryper 12/23/2012 06:51PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 288 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 246 Scott Watson 12/22/2012 10:10PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 245 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 358 Surfpunk 12/22/2012 06:08AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 350 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:27AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 323 Troy 12/22/2012 06:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 333 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 07:47AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 312 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:52AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 332 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:53AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 319 Coco 12/22/2012 07:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 303 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:46AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 300 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 07:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 333 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 245 stryper 12/22/2012 06:07PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 315 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 07:59AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 296 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 08:44AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 320 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:54AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 310 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:13AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 315 Mitch 12/22/2012 09:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 315 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 339 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:33AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 315 Doug Wolfgang 12/23/2012 09:46AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 294 Bristler 12/24/2012 05:06AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 247 gary191265 12/24/2012 09:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 269 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:44AM
A different perspective...336 Steve_Roamer 12/22/2012 10:30PM
Re: A different perspective... 350 Snake65 12/22/2012 11:32PM
Re: A different perspective... 328 Terry K. 12/23/2012 12:47AM
Re: A different perspective... 305 Snake65 12/23/2012 04:05AM
Re: A different perspective... 269 Terry K. 12/23/2012 04:54AM
Re: A different perspective... 334 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:28AM
Re: A different perspective... 311 AndyC 12/23/2012 07:03AM
Re: A different perspective... 309 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:15AM
Re: A different perspective... 287 AndyC 12/23/2012 07:35PM
Re: A different perspective... 267 Steve_Roamer 12/23/2012 07:09AM
Re: A different perspective... 327 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:19AM
Re: A different perspective... 274 KAYAKER 12/23/2012 12:06PM
Re: A different perspective... 300 Steve_Roamer 12/24/2012 08:24AM
Re: A different perspective... 279 Troy 12/24/2012 01:43PM
Re: A different perspective... 266 gary191265 12/24/2012 08:13PM
Re: A different perspective... 257 Mitch 12/25/2012 01:11AM
Re: A different perspective... 271 stryper 12/25/2012 03:34AM
Re: A different perspective... 261 Troy 12/25/2012 03:39AM
Re: A different perspective... 323 Coco 12/23/2012 07:32AM
Re: A different perspective... 304 Mitch 12/23/2012 08:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 500 Snake65 12/22/2012 10:44PM
Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? 447 Burg 12/23/2012 09:49AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 291 Nunzio Soprano 12/23/2012 09:38PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 285 Snake65 12/23/2012 10:58PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 290 Nunzio Soprano 12/23/2012 11:57PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 243 Snake65 12/24/2012 12:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 312 Nunzio Soprano 12/24/2012 12:37AM
They could close the schools ? 356 Chazz 12/24/2012 01:10AM
Re: They could close the schools ? 267 Snake65 12/24/2012 01:54AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 257 Snake65 12/24/2012 01:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 318 Terry K. 12/24/2012 08:01AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 286 stryper 12/24/2012 04:54AM
next president of the NRA 287 Ydde 12/23/2012 09:51PM


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