A different perspective...
Posted by: Steve_Roamer ()
Date: December 22, 2012 10:30PM

I have read this thread with interest. Mitch is clearly never going to agree with the idea of banning semi-automatic weapons from the general public but I thought I'd add couple of observations from other countries.

New Zealand (my current domicile) openly sells guns. It freaked me out to see a major gun store next to a toy shop and opposite a pet store and still does to an extent. However, buying a gun is not easy. To get a license you have to have background checks which consider criminal, mental, medical, addiction and domestic violence and interviews are conducted with an applicant's spouse, partner, or next of kin before issuing a gun licence. Ownership for self-defence is strictly prohibited. Guns are allowed for hunting and little else really.

In Denmark (my previous domicile) applicants for a gun owner’s licence have to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, hunting, target shooting, collection; and pass background checks which consider criminal and mental records.

In the Uk (my birthplace) background checks are also required, as is a genuine reason and third party references. Handguns and semiautomatic weapons are prohibited for common use.

This site was useful to get details on gun regulations: www.gunpolicy.org.

Someone intent enough on getting an illegal weapon will most likely be able to get one, just as someone intent on killing a large number of people with a bomb will. I just don't think making it easy to get one exactly helps matters, and I think that is borne out by the frequency of shootings in schools reported globally: www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html. The US lead the world in this sad statistic.

I'm not a US citizen and don't really understand the deep-seated compulsion on many towards their right to own a gun. I don't feel relaxed around any kind of firearm. However, even accepting this as a right, I still don't understand why anyone outside the armed or justice forces should have access to a firearm capable of firing 30 shots in 30 seconds. If they were not available, perhaps a few more of the children tragically killed at Sandy Hook and all the other schools where shootings had been seen would be alive now.

My thoughts to all those affected in this terrible tragedy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/22/2012 10:31PM by Steve_Roamer.



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Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 555 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 03:51AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 555 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 03:58AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 547 Tony Bainbridge 12/22/2012 03:58AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 506 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 04:01AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 519 Andrew 12/22/2012 08:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 463 Leet2607 12/22/2012 04:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 463 Coco 12/22/2012 04:22AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 506 JMac 12/22/2012 04:29AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 462 Coco 12/22/2012 04:35AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 487 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 04:37AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 470 Coco 12/22/2012 04:38AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 474 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 04:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 422 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:18AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 434 Coco 12/22/2012 07:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 458 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:17AM
Re: Liberals 441 rocknut 12/22/2012 09:13PM
Re: Liberals 426 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:17AM
Re: Liberals 345 rocknut 12/23/2012 06:34AM
Re: Liberals 468 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:35AM
Re: Liberals 413 rocknut 12/23/2012 06:52AM
Re: Liberals 406 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:57AM
Re: Liberals 390 rocknut 12/23/2012 07:01AM
Re: Liberals 358 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:03AM
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Re: FBI STATS 368 stryper 12/23/2012 06:38PM
Re: FBI STATS 358 Snake65 12/23/2012 11:49PM
Re: FBI STATS 354 Coco 12/24/2012 12:27AM
Re: FBI STATS 376 SNorander 12/25/2012 03:48AM
Re: FBI STATS 297 Troy 12/25/2012 04:53AM
Re: FBI STATS 301 SNorander 12/25/2012 05:17AM
Re: FBI STATS 316 Troy 12/25/2012 05:28AM
Re: FBI STATS 392 Coco 12/25/2012 05:24AM
Re: FBI STATS 313 Snake65 12/26/2012 02:41AM
Re: FBI STATS 334 Coco 12/26/2012 03:37AM
Re: FBI STATS 304 Snake65 12/26/2012 07:18AM
Re: FBI STATS 333 Ross S. 12/25/2012 04:27AM
Re: Liberals 428 rocknut 12/23/2012 07:15AM
Re: Liberals 397 Coco 12/23/2012 07:18AM
Re: Liberals 395 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:20AM
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Re: Liberals 360 Coco 12/23/2012 08:11PM
Re: Liberals 256 Walk In The Shadows 12/23/2012 11:13PM
Re: Liberals 291 SNorander 12/25/2012 03:39AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 440 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:20AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 416 JMac 12/22/2012 07:41AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 443 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:43AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 360 JMac 12/22/2012 08:02AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 377 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:06AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 324 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 08:36AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 348 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:56AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 415 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:15AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 346 Mitch 12/22/2012 09:20AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 327 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:25AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 430 JMac 12/22/2012 07:49AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 416 rocknut 12/22/2012 05:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 412 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 05:09AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 447 Troy 12/22/2012 05:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 390 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 418 Troy 12/22/2012 06:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 401 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:43AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 408 Troy 12/22/2012 07:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 353 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 336 Coco 12/22/2012 07:12AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 365 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:16AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 396 Coco 12/22/2012 07:24AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 404 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 373 Coco 12/22/2012 07:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 372 Troy 12/22/2012 08:18AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 403 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 362 Troy 12/22/2012 08:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 399 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:36AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 390 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:22AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 390 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:25AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 441 Coco 12/22/2012 08:35AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 374 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 408 Coco 12/22/2012 10:05PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 320 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 374 Terry K. 12/23/2012 06:26AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 384 Coco 12/23/2012 07:12AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 400 AndyC 12/22/2012 11:21PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 384 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 366 AndyC 12/22/2012 09:40PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 396 Terry K. 12/23/2012 12:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 311 AndyC 12/23/2012 01:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 360 gary191265 12/23/2012 01:14AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 371 Scott Watson 12/22/2012 07:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 388 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:11AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 377 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 08:00AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 328 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:03AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 361 Troy 12/22/2012 08:13AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 350 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:15AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 407 Troy 12/22/2012 09:37AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 318 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:31AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 308 Troy 12/23/2012 06:47AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 369 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:55AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 336 Troy 12/23/2012 07:59AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 300 Troy 12/23/2012 08:09AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 300 stryper 12/23/2012 06:49PM
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Re: GUNS and BOATS and LIES 303 stryper 12/23/2012 06:51PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 318 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:40AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 276 Scott Watson 12/22/2012 10:10PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 266 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 384 Surfpunk 12/22/2012 06:08AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 383 Mitch 12/22/2012 06:27AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 357 Troy 12/22/2012 06:42AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 358 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 07:47AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 339 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:52AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 356 Mitch 12/22/2012 07:53AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 339 Coco 12/22/2012 07:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 336 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:46AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 329 Walk In The Shadows 12/22/2012 07:57AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 360 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:07AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 267 stryper 12/22/2012 06:07PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 346 RAMSAY 12/22/2012 07:59AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 322 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 08:44AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 356 Mitch 12/22/2012 08:54AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 338 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:13AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 340 Mitch 12/22/2012 09:19AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 334 Doug Wolfgang 12/22/2012 09:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 368 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:33AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 354 Doug Wolfgang 12/23/2012 09:46AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 318 Bristler 12/24/2012 05:06AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 265 gary191265 12/24/2012 09:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 288 Terry K. 12/22/2012 10:44AM
A different perspective...380 Steve_Roamer 12/22/2012 10:30PM
Re: A different perspective... 376 Snake65 12/22/2012 11:32PM
Re: A different perspective... 357 Terry K. 12/23/2012 12:47AM
Re: A different perspective... 328 Snake65 12/23/2012 04:05AM
Re: A different perspective... 290 Terry K. 12/23/2012 04:54AM
Re: A different perspective... 357 Mitch 12/23/2012 06:28AM
Re: A different perspective... 340 AndyC 12/23/2012 07:03AM
Re: A different perspective... 350 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:15AM
Re: A different perspective... 329 AndyC 12/23/2012 07:35PM
Re: A different perspective... 279 Steve_Roamer 12/23/2012 07:09AM
Re: A different perspective... 359 Mitch 12/23/2012 07:19AM
Re: A different perspective... 297 KAYAKER 12/23/2012 12:06PM
Re: A different perspective... 336 Steve_Roamer 12/24/2012 08:24AM
Re: A different perspective... 303 Troy 12/24/2012 01:43PM
Re: A different perspective... 291 gary191265 12/24/2012 08:13PM
Re: A different perspective... 278 Mitch 12/25/2012 01:11AM
Re: A different perspective... 290 stryper 12/25/2012 03:34AM
Re: A different perspective... 281 Troy 12/25/2012 03:39AM
Re: A different perspective... 349 Coco 12/23/2012 07:32AM
Re: A different perspective... 331 Mitch 12/23/2012 08:23AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 528 Snake65 12/22/2012 10:44PM
Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? 495 Burg 12/23/2012 09:49AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 311 Nunzio Soprano 12/23/2012 09:38PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 308 Snake65 12/23/2012 10:58PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 318 Nunzio Soprano 12/23/2012 11:57PM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 256 Snake65 12/24/2012 12:05AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 337 Nunzio Soprano 12/24/2012 12:37AM
They could close the schools ? 385 Chazz 12/24/2012 01:10AM
Re: They could close the schools ? 298 Snake65 12/24/2012 01:54AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 285 Snake65 12/24/2012 01:21AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 342 Terry K. 12/24/2012 08:01AM
Re: O/T The NRA Have A Plan To Stop School Shootings 304 stryper 12/24/2012 04:54AM
next president of the NRA 323 Ydde 12/23/2012 09:51PM


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