Koogles, in response to some of your comments...
Posted by: Don ()
Date: November 22, 2000 12:36PM

"Bill Haley and the Comets rocked too. Around the clock no less. Was melodic. Hmmm... do I detect a flaw in logic here? :) "

...This is precisely my point, Koogles!!! The labeling system we use is flawed. Think about it! "Melodic hard rock" is such a huge descriptor that d@mn near anything could fit into it. If there's any melody, and it's rock music that's got any edge at all, then it is, undoubtedly, melodic hard rock to someone out there. The AOR label is even more vague. A while back there was an entire thread on this board based on what it stood for. We had several answers (some of which were rather amusing, btw!!!) and opinions. So who wants the job of policing this board and jumping on anyone who posts about artists who don't fit those descriptions? Do you? And who has the right to take that position? Do you? And do the rest of us want someone to do so? Should we ask 'em? What do you think the answer would be?

I do understand your point. I have been addicted to this site for around three years now. It is wonderful to be able to come to a place where the overwhelming majority of the visitors not only remember, but revel in the glory days of "our" music (whether we wanna call it AOR, melodic hard rock, metal, or whatever...). And I have learned SOOOOOO much since coming here, it boggles my mind. The quality and size of my CD collection has increased astronomically (and btw, I laughed out loud when you made the comment about people like me being responsible for the demise of MHR in the early '90s. You obviously have no idea how much money I have invested in supporting "your" kinds of artists. And, yes, I am continuing to do so. Do not think for one minute that I am not supporting labels like N & T, MTM, Z, Kivel, etc. The very idea is ludicrous.). I understand that you love to come here to read about cool music that interests you. This site is a goldmine, and since discovering it I have made some wonderful friends for whom I have tremendous respect and admiration. I love to read what people have to say about bands that I've heard or haven't heard. Peoples' comments have often caused me to give albums I own another listen with perhaps a more open ear/mind than I had previously given them. And again, I have learned soooo much that I probably owe Andrew and the gang my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, ...79th born sons!!! But I also believe that it is imperative not to limit ourselves to simply discussing bands that sound like Journey, Van Halen, Iron Maiden, etc. I simply believe that there's more to melodic hard rock than that, and I believe that many of the other visitors to this board to as well.

As for your comment about singers who sing in the upper register, well, to be honest, I found that one quite interesting. See, I, too, have always loved that aspect of "our" music. There are a few exceptions, mind you (like, for example, Mike Matevichiijuistiytik...., LOL.... well, you know, the guy from Steelheart). But for the most part, I too always loved that element of AOR/MHR/metal. And I miss it. But I don't for one moment think that all singers of "our" music necessarily fit into that category. There were many whose voices didn't soar like Steve Perry's or Tony Mills' or Rob Halford's. Furthermore (and somewhat ironically), I think that the whole "upper register" thing was part of the reason why I loved the SR-71 album so much. Mitch Allen's voice sounds to me a lot like a hybrid of the singers from Northern Pikes, Killer Dwarfs, and The Outfield. I would definitely consider it to be in the upper register for a lot of their songs. Interestingly, though, this is not the case with their smash hit, "Right Now." If you've heard that song and are lumping these guys in with Blink 182 and Green Day based on having heard it alone, you REALLY owe it to yourself to check out the rest of the album. I'd say that that one song is kind of an exception on the album. Most of the rest of the album has a much more melodic vibe to it and sounds a lot less like punk than that track. Really. I mean, I'm not saying that you'd like the album. It's very possible that you wouldn't, given that you don't strike me as being the most open-minded person I've encountered (again, no offense intended). But then again, if you gave it a fair shake, you just might find yourself digging it. You might actually hear the melody, the upper register vocals, and the harmonies that I'm hearing when I play it. I guess it's your $15 risk to consider. Either way, take care and rock on.

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SR-71 250 Don 11/20/2000 10:14AM
RE: SR-71 158 Kevin 11/20/2000 11:04AM
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RE: The revolution 179 Don 11/21/2000 07:19AM
RE: The revolution? Hardly! 218 koogles 11/21/2000 08:24AM
koogles, you are dellusional. 176 Copious K9 11/21/2000 09:29AM
RE: koogles, you are dellusional. 181 koogles 11/22/2000 02:15AM
RE: koogles and I are dellusional. 176 Copious K9 11/22/2000 05:39AM
Koogles, Have you not noticed... 156Surfpunk11/21/2000 09:40AM
RE: Koogles, Have you not noticed... 182 koogles 11/22/2000 01:59AM
Koogles, in response to some of your comments...162 Don 11/22/2000 12:36PM
RE: Koogles, in response to some of your comments. 171 koogles 11/22/2000 03:10PM
RE: Let me get this straight... 206 Don 11/22/2000 05:41PM
RE: Let me get this straight... 167 koogles 11/23/2000 12:36AM
RE: Koogles, in response to some of your comments. 175 sfk kurt 11/24/2000 12:16AM
RE: Koogles, in a sense it all boils down to... 187 Don 11/21/2000 09:51AM
RE: Koogles, I just noticed... 158 Don 11/21/2000 10:03AM
A few words for the lukewarm 172 koogles 11/22/2000 01:41AM
RE: Hi Hot Stuff!! ...It's me, Luke Warm 166 Don 11/22/2000 01:15PM
RE: Hi Hot Stuff!! ...It's me, Luke Warm 175 koogles 11/22/2000 02:59PM
RE: Hi Hot Stuff!! ...It's me, Luke Warm 156 Don 11/22/2000 05:46PM
RE: Hi Hot Stuff!! ...It's me, Luke Warm 169 koogles 11/23/2000 12:26AM
RE: One last thought... 176 Don 11/23/2000 01:03AM
RE: DON??? 153-Rob11/21/2000 10:51AM
RE: Hi Rob!! 164 Don 11/21/2000 11:07AM
Treble Charger 132 Tom Krupa 11/22/2000 01:39AM
RE: SR-71 - One more comment on their sound... 176 Don 11/21/2000 10:12AM
RE: SR-71 - One more comment on their sound... 146 Copious K9 11/22/2000 01:32AM
RE: SR-71 - One more comment on their sound... 160 Matt 11/22/2000 02:46AM

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