Excellent points on all accounts Kevin!! I see your point and agree whole heartedly..We will see with the quality of the ballads/songs on this album how much imput he had....I mean..yeah he did get song writing credits...now we dont know ...but who's to say hypothetically that Cain didnt write the whole song send her my love..then at the the end where it goes "roses never fade" perry said..hey how bout memories remain..the WHAMMO!! he gets credit too?? LOL! Ya never know...But all i know is your right the quality of the songs from FTLOSM compared to The end of the innocence is a HUGE difference...I almost never play THLOSM anymore and i still listen to TEOTI from time to time...

It's just i wonder why so many people who where obviously influenced by Journey are so scared to admit it?? I mean Ricky Martin and Garth Brooks has but not to many have in print/public.....I wonder what they did to make the media disdain them soo badly?

Brad