Ah yes...But if you REALLY want to get technical...The bands greatest success was the ESCAPE, FRONTIERS, and ROR album...and that one constant was Johnathan Cain...I think he is given way too little credit for thier success...I didnt see open arms faithfully etc on the first few perry albums..With Cain probably writing most of the ballads...which is the ONLY thing they will get commercial success in this Girl/Boy band day of age....Forget rockers...These guys are not KNOWN for rockers nor never will...They are the godfathers of the power ballad...nobody has nor will do it better..They will carve a nice adult comtemperary ninche for themselves for however long they continue to do this....Same here..just my opinon...

Brad