Re: My thoughts....
Posted by: Doc K ()
Date: September 09, 2001 12:16PM

Peter, this is my last posting to you. I am in agreement with some of your points and have to laugh about many others. Your latest line about the middle class not shooting people reveals the state of denial you are in. Let me remind you with some catch words:

Columbine
Pearl
Paducah
Edinboro
San Diego


The list goes on. In the inner city, our kids tend to chuckle at this. They have told me over the years that it is quite amazing that school shootings most always take place in lilly white middle class suburbs. In their all-too-real way of looking at it, these kids need a stage to act out their frustrations. School happens to be a great stage. And by the way, inner city kids generally laugh about some of the frustrations.

Inner city kids generally regard schools as last bastions of safety. Unlike their suburban counterparts, it is one of the few places they DON'T hear gunfire.

Please. Get your stories straight.


I would challenge you to compare playlists from the MTV of, let's say 1985 and the MTV of today. Perhaps billboard.com has such archives. You'd be surprised by what was being played. You'd be surprised about the variety of shows.

Now, saturation is the king.

I remember MTV being chastised by the black community for not playing rap videos back in the early days of the station. I remember the advent of Fab Five Freddy and Grand Master Flash finally getting played. And I remember Blondie's 'Rapture' getting aired. I remember MTV airing shows like Yo MTV Raps, Headbangers Ball and an Alternative show late at night in between the playlist I mentioned.

Sorry Pete. Glam was NEVER in control. That won't fly here. 24 hours of saturation with groups like the Crue never was the rule.

And the MTV music awards itself was never the endless stream of scum and un-talent it is now (in a musical sense). It wasn't the mixture of thugs and bad taste you seem to defend now.

Please, watch some earlier shows.

The agenda behind the programming effort is clear. Read the Drudge Report above.

Lastly, about not taking ownership of one's own actions...or of one's own kids.....
we live in an excuse ridden society. It is what it is. Peer pressure and electronic media are powerful influences to begin with--and now--with many if not most kids coming from broken homes, it provides THE messages to live by. And Pete, you seem to approve of the messages kids are being bombed with via MTV. In your wisdom, they are just an extension---a pushing of the envelope--of ideas that begin in the 60's.

Bollocks.

Frank Sinatra once called rock n roll the most hateful, grotesque music form he'd ever heard.

No doubt, he's doing flips in his grave if he's heard modern rap.

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Garanteed $$$$uCeSS for Van Halen. 69Coney Island Whitefish09/07/2001 06:39PM
MTV Video Music Awards 50 Brian 09/07/2001 07:18PM
MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their stomac 38Doc K09/07/2001 08:59PM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 48 Wild Island Man 09/07/2001 11:28PM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 47 Don Wishon 09/08/2001 12:28AM
of course they would be missed 49 sfk kurt 09/08/2001 09:47AM
Random Comments 46Doc K09/08/2001 12:53PM
Re: Random Comments 43Peter M. Bietenholz09/08/2001 10:31PM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 49 J.C. 09/08/2001 01:00AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 40Doc K09/08/2001 04:57AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 56 J.C. 09/08/2001 05:28AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 56 Don Wishon 09/08/2001 05:32AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 52Peter M. Bietenholz09/08/2001 06:28AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 55 Brian 09/08/2001 07:08AM
Re: MTV Music Awards--Anyone else sick to their st 49 Andrew Paul 09/08/2001 08:20PM
Viacom Boss got what he deserved. 57 Snake65 09/08/2001 07:13AM
Is Viacom Owned By Time Warner? 54 Tinger 09/08/2001 07:36AM
My thoughts.... 41Jack09/08/2001 09:21AM
Re: My thoughts.... 52 Snake65 09/09/2001 05:42AM
Re: My thoughts.... 48 Brian 09/09/2001 10:17AM
Anyone Seen Much Loud Channel Yet? 54 Tinger 09/09/2001 12:08PM
Re: My thoughts....52Doc K09/09/2001 12:16PM
Re: My thoughts.... 45Peter M. Bietenholz09/09/2001 07:28PM
Re: Viacom Boss got what he deserved. 49Peter M. Bietenholz09/09/2001 07:18AM
Peter Please 49 Snake65 09/11/2001 03:37AM
Agreed, Snake 44Doc K09/11/2001 05:07AM
Doc... 45Peter M. Bietenholz09/11/2001 06:14AM
Pete.... 43Doc K09/11/2001 12:48PM


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