Re: From my perspective...
Posted by: Don ()
Date: August 15, 2001 10:00AM

...(that is, from the perspective of someone who teaches, coaches, and works with adolescent kids), I guess I see it like this:

I would be crucified if I thought it was alright for my students to speak this way. (Yes, I realize that none of you are my students, and I'm not suggesting that you are.) Just imagine what people would say if we allowed young people, when they had a difference of opinion, to resort to "You f*ckin' nigger, what do you mean by that...." If I allowed that to occur in my classroom surely be accused of condoning or promoting racism. And it'd probably be true. It's NOT okay for people to speak this way - even if they have a difference of opinion. We shouldn't allow our kids to get into the habit of thinking this behaviour is acceptable. So, if it's not okay for 13 year old kids to behave this way, why is it okay for adults to do so?

Coco, I don't know a thing about you, but if you have children - or plan to one day - do you want your kids to grow up beginning every confrontation they have in their lives with "Alright you Paki piece of sh*t..." or "What's your problem, you polak (sp.?) moron?" If they need to resort to name-calling, then you can allow 'em use as much profanity as you want. H*ll, you can even teach it to 'em ("you cuss real good, pa")! But should race or ethnic background ever enter into it? Maybe there wouldn't be so many "brutal acts of racism happening out there every day," as you say, if we nipped it in the bud and started trying to eliminate the small ones. I dunno, maybe I'm crazy. It's just a thought.

Coco, despite what this whole interaction might sound like, I'd bet that you and I are more similar than different. I suspect that we both abhor senseless acts of racism. I guess I'm just also ultra-sensative to how such acts might begin. *And I, for one, don't wanna see racial terms and references popping up in every third thread on the board. They just don't have to be included. The slamming, slagging, mud-slinging, and heated discussion can happen without any reference to each other's race, color, creed, ethnic backround, religious beliefs, etc.*

Now, I don't know how derogatory a term "kraut" is (and I am of German descent!). I don't claim to be up-to-speed on which terms are more or less insulting than others. I know that I freely and frequently refer to myself as a "Canuck." When I do so, it's meant as a playful thing, but, for all I know the term might be more derogatory than "kraut." I just don't relish the idea of people on this board regularly bringing EACH OTHER'S ethnic background into the arguments that occur. To me, name-calling seems utterly pointless anyways, but if it's gonna happen, it surely doesn't have to be racial, does it?

Again, in the end, I suspect that many will disagee with me on this issue and I freely admit that I am probably over-sensitive in this regard. But it is simply because I loathe the idea of "brutal acts of racism" that I am the way I am. If we don't want our kids to grow up making ethnic slurs a part of every confrontation they engage in, why should we allow ourselves to do so?
Don

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