Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post
Posted by: Mark Ashton ()
Date: June 24, 2001 07:26PM

Hi Surfpunk,
A couple of quickies -

ARTISTIC CONTROL. I think maybe you missed my point. I am not having a go at TNT for making "Firefly" per se, what I`m having a go at is them being asked and paid to do a particular style of album and then ignoring that and doing something completely different. I don`t buy the `artistic freedom` defense. If you employ a painter to paint your living room and you ask them to do it blue and then they do it yellow because in their `artistic` opinion it is better and fresher then would you pay them? I doubt it. If they want to paint their own house yellow using their own money then that`s fine and I have no problem with that.
All I meant was that if someone is employed and paid to do a particular job then that is what they should do.
For instance, Harem Scarem are now making their new album. They themselves have come out and openly stated that it will be a return to the melodic rock style of their earlier albums. Now, if they deliver an album that is groundbreakingly original and singlehandedly invent a new musical genre then I think that myself and the Japanese label that are funding this album between us have a righ tto be unhappy about that. The band came to us with this as their idea so if they don`t deliver then we have grounds for complaint.
If, on the other hand, they came to us and said that they had a plan to make a groundbreaking new album and did we want to be invovled then that`s a whole different story.
We don`t impose strict guidelines for our artists. They generally get freedom to make the album that they want. What sometimes happens is that we all sit down and discuss a direction that we agree on as being the right way forward for a band. Some artists want this guidance, others don`t.
I feel that an A&R person has to be able to allow an artist freedom to be artistic, but also to have one eye on the commercial aspects of the business.
For example, when TEN were recording their first album they had no restrictions imposed by us on the music. If anything, we encouraged Gary to write what he wanted and he ended up with about 30 killer tracks. We then came in and chose the tracks which worked together as the first album and then a bunch that sat together well as "The Name Of The Rose" and a few others became part of Gary`s "Precious Ones" album. I feel that this is A&R working at it`s best. The musicians were allowed total freedom to do as they wished and then we became invovled in the mix with some ideas and in the compiling of the albums. Artists are sometimes too close to their work to be able to put their own albums together. They don`t like a particualr song any more because they broke up with their girlfriend when they were writing it. It might be the best thing they`ve ever written but they don`t see it objectively any longer.

Also, We aren`t a limitless pot of funding for musicians to vent their artistic side. If anything, the majors should be that. They have the money to spare, we don`t. Why is it then that the least original and fresh music comes from these huge multinational corporations? They could spare a million or two to allow a few artists to really push the boundarise, we can`t.
Also, just because it`s new and original doesn`t always equate to it being good or commercially viable.
As one writer at Kerrang once said, it`s all very well being unique and original, but if it`s shite, what`s the point?

Bye for now,

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A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 160Mark Ashton06/24/2001 02:18AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 131Tony M06/24/2001 03:25AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 133Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:50AM
To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 109Kieran06/24/2001 04:09AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 115TC06/24/2001 04:22AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 368 Danny Danzi 06/24/2001 04:21PM
Re:Stick around to what you know you do best !! 110 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/25/2001 09:05AM
AN IDEA.... 151 Tavas 06/25/2001 02:28AM
good point... 123 sfk kurt 06/25/2001 06:51AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 121Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:40AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 97John Q06/24/2001 05:16AM
Good post! 97 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 04:41AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 134Surfpunk06/24/2001 04:56AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 124 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 05:40AM
Return 114Surfpunk06/24/2001 09:24AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post110Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:26PM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 121Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:56PM
the bottom line 124 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 05:48AM
Re: the bottom line 117 Mike Matney 06/24/2001 06:59AM
Re: the bottom line 98Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:59PM
Hey Mark 110 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 10:51PM
Re: the bottom line 112Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:59PM
Rebuttle 120 Captain Can Man 06/24/2001 06:43AM
Are you the only 'rocker' left in Atlanta... 107 koogles 06/24/2001 11:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 106Tony Harnell06/24/2001 12:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 129Mark Ashton06/24/2001 08:09PM
Re: Rebuttle 88 Carl1 06/24/2001 08:26PM
Ditto.. (np) 125 Andrew 06/24/2001 08:34PM
Re: Rebuttle 120Tony Harnell06/25/2001 12:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 119Peter M. Bietenholz06/24/2001 11:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 103 Captain Can Man 06/25/2001 04:31AM
Thank You Tony! 120 Ten_K_Lovers_N1 06/26/2001 05:31AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 106Gav06/24/2001 10:29PM
young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 121 Tavas 06/25/2001 03:03AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 121 Danny Danzi 06/25/2001 07:28AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 111 Brian 06/25/2001 01:41PM
indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 96 Tavas 06/25/2001 05:14PM
Re: indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 91 Mike Matney 06/25/2001 09:08PM
Hey Danny! 119Surfpunk06/26/2001 03:54AM
Re: Hey Danny! 119 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 08:21AM
Re: Hey Danny 112Tony Harnell06/26/2001 02:29PM
2 cents worth.... 106 Captain Can Man 06/26/2001 03:33PM
Re: Hey Danny 130 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 05:16PM
Hey now! 120John Q06/26/2001 08:07PM
Re: Hey now! 105Tony Harnell06/27/2001 02:20AM
Re: Hey now! 142 Fran 06/27/2001 02:49AM
For the record... 123Surfpunk06/27/2001 06:12AM
Question for Tony & Danni........... 99 Mrpool 06/27/2001 08:13AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 117 SegaNinja 06/27/2001 09:31AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 119Tony Harnell06/27/2001 10:21AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 118 ted poley 07/01/2001 01:43PM
Re: Question for Tony & Danni........... 126 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:28PM
Re: Hey now! 130John Q06/27/2001 12:44PM
Re: Hey now! 136 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:52PM
Don't Dream It's Over..... 130 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 01:23PM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 146Tony Harnell06/28/2001 12:47AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 143 Captain Can Man 06/28/2001 04:51AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 115Tony Harnell06/28/2001 10:42AM
Re: Hey now! 153 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 07:08AM
Dear MLover... 129John Q06/27/2001 11:15AM
Re: Dear John... 151 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:48PM
Re: Hey now! 118 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 11:57AM
Danny! 122 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 12:49PM
Re: Danny! 109 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 01:00PM
Re: Hey Danny 124 Peter M. Bietenholz 06/27/2001 07:35AM
Peter, 120Surfpunk06/27/2001 08:19AM
Re: Peter, I agree !! . 135 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:23AM
Re: Hey Danny 124 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:13PM
Re: Hey Danny/Well said (np) 131Darkman06/27/2001 07:03PM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 129 Brian 06/25/2001 01:39PM

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