Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post
Posted by: Misterpomp ()
Date: June 24, 2001 05:40AM

I don't disagree with you that there may well be more challenging music made by giving the artist freedom to create as they choose but why should an organisation that exists to at least feed Mr Ashton (we are going to allow him that or should he starve for the "art"?) pay for that. If artist "X" or indeed artist "Honey Tarnell" has some masive new way of musical thinking that we're all invited to enjoy, why should record label "Y" or indeed "Then&Not Then" put unrecoupable money into that? Would my favourite artists benefit from a multi million $ recording budget? Yes. Are they going to get it? No. Why ? Because not enough people think they're worthy of it. Like it or loathe - it's the Backstreet Boys and Phil Collins that people want to hear. Music of all sorts has never been more accessible so it's not about "corporate control / access to airwaves". Any useless git can make arecord these days and anybody, thanks to the web, can hear / buy it. If people are still buying those things - it's cause they want to.

Anyway why should "T&N" pay for this mythical "HT" to make his new industrial/reggae crossover (under the name by the way of a band that were actually renowned for barbershop / punk crossover) when all the "HT"s think nothing of getting a few thousand (or hundreds of thousands) of $ from the man at Coors, Bud, McDonalds, KFC.... Or another way - why does artistry only work in these "artists" favour. When they want to pay the bill they are not demeaning themselves by taking a corporate buck ... or do they walk in to a McDonalds jingle session and say "Hey Ronald.. I've decided to this one in the style of a castrated duck ... more challenging! Don't you think?". Or do they just think they've got power over the "little" guys at "T&N"???

As for exhuming the corpse of FM to wave over us. never did a band so brazenly make the music they didn't like for the sake of making the music they thought would get them a nice juicy wage. Their first 2 albums stand as some of the most blatantly "thought out" and pre-planned AOR albums of all time and their ultimate failure was well-deserved. If you're putting forward FM as a band who had the passion etc .. then dear help us! You then go on to contradict yourself as you firstly want bands to do it for the "artistry" but presumably want to leave them for dead if "after 5 or 6 albums" they are still on a small label? Surely their artistry transcends such quibbles as sales figures / commercial success?? And as for the "revolution of the fans" bit .. maybe the problem is just that Mr Ashton - unlike me - has a hard understanding of the £ involved and where they go and let's face it a glorious failure of a label that ends up going under but promoting its passion is no good to anyone....

I don't doubt this is an insoluble argument but your lines of thought just left me more confused than before...

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A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 143Mark Ashton06/24/2001 02:18AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 107Tony M06/24/2001 03:25AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 116Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:50AM
To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 85Kieran06/24/2001 04:09AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 94TC06/24/2001 04:22AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 108 Danny Danzi 06/24/2001 04:21PM
Re:Stick around to what you know you do best !! 85 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/25/2001 09:05AM
AN IDEA.... 117 Tavas 06/25/2001 02:28AM
good point... 104 sfk kurt 06/25/2001 06:51AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 89Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:40AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 78John Q06/24/2001 05:16AM
Good post! 79 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 04:41AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 113Surfpunk06/24/2001 04:56AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post104 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 05:40AM
Return 100Surfpunk06/24/2001 09:24AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 87Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:26PM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 104Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:56PM
the bottom line 102 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 05:48AM
Re: the bottom line 79 Mike Matney 06/24/2001 06:59AM
Re: the bottom line 89Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:59PM
Hey Mark 94 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 10:51PM
Re: the bottom line 97Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:59PM
Rebuttle 97 Captain Can Man 06/24/2001 06:43AM
Are you the only 'rocker' left in Atlanta... 87 koogles 06/24/2001 11:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 85Tony Harnell06/24/2001 12:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 97Mark Ashton06/24/2001 08:09PM
Re: Rebuttle 73 Carl1 06/24/2001 08:26PM
Ditto.. (np) 86 Andrew 06/24/2001 08:34PM
Re: Rebuttle 100Tony Harnell06/25/2001 12:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 96Peter M. Bietenholz06/24/2001 11:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 78 Captain Can Man 06/25/2001 04:31AM
Thank You Tony! 93 Ten_K_Lovers_N1 06/26/2001 05:31AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 87Gav06/24/2001 10:29PM
young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 101 Tavas 06/25/2001 03:03AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 105 Danny Danzi 06/25/2001 07:28AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 98 Brian 06/25/2001 01:41PM
indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 79 Tavas 06/25/2001 05:14PM
Re: indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 69 Mike Matney 06/25/2001 09:08PM
Hey Danny! 102Surfpunk06/26/2001 03:54AM
Re: Hey Danny! 100 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 08:21AM
Re: Hey Danny 79Tony Harnell06/26/2001 02:29PM
2 cents worth.... 88 Captain Can Man 06/26/2001 03:33PM
Re: Hey Danny 104 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 05:16PM
Hey now! 91John Q06/26/2001 08:07PM
Re: Hey now! 88Tony Harnell06/27/2001 02:20AM
Re: Hey now! 117 Fran 06/27/2001 02:49AM
For the record... 109Surfpunk06/27/2001 06:12AM
Question for Tony & Danni........... 85 Mrpool 06/27/2001 08:13AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 93 SegaNinja 06/27/2001 09:31AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 102Tony Harnell06/27/2001 10:21AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 80 ted poley 07/01/2001 01:43PM
Re: Question for Tony & Danni........... 99 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:28PM
Re: Hey now! 94John Q06/27/2001 12:44PM
Re: Hey now! 113 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:52PM
Don't Dream It's Over..... 107 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 01:23PM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 134Tony Harnell06/28/2001 12:47AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 120 Captain Can Man 06/28/2001 04:51AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 97Tony Harnell06/28/2001 10:42AM
Re: Hey now! 127 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 07:08AM
Dear MLover... 108John Q06/27/2001 11:15AM
Re: Dear John... 125 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:48PM
Re: Hey now! 105 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 11:57AM
Danny! 103 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 12:49PM
Re: Danny! 94 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 01:00PM
Re: Hey Danny 110 Peter M. Bietenholz 06/27/2001 07:35AM
Peter, 96Surfpunk06/27/2001 08:19AM
Re: Peter, I agree !! . 116 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:23AM
Re: Hey Danny 100 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:13PM
Re: Hey Danny/Well said (np) 111Darkman06/27/2001 07:03PM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 103 Brian 06/25/2001 01:39PM


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