Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post
Posted by: Surfpunk ()
Date: June 24, 2001 04:56AM

I have two points to make. The first is Artistic Control.
We've all heard this referred to in the past. This or that artist has 'complete artistic control' over the music and the labels job is to market the finished product. So to what extent is this true? Just how many artists find themselves in this position? Irrespective, isn't this condusive to creativity? By stating what a label wants/expects from a band isn't that doing exactly what Tony Harnell said and aiding the stagnation of the scene? A lot of musicians want to be able to stretch themselves AND THEIR AUDIENCE in the same way that, say, The Beatles did. Time may have moved on, but it has had more impact on the way music is marketed than the creative process.Isn't the job of the labels to nurture the creative process and assist their artists in INCREASING the fanbase, rather than just waiting until they die and stop buying's? Perhaps creativity is required equally in the marketing departments of the labels in relation to the music, sorry, PRODUCT, if indeed they have marketing departments.

The other point is this. Small labels used to serve the purpose of identifying talent and getting bands up and running before the major labels took them under their wing and actually made them grow. Sure, there is a lot to be said for being a 'big fish in a small pond' but it seems to me that the current AOR/MHR scene, or whatever tag you want to give it today, is in danger of being strangled by the very people who have kept the scene going through a very lean period. Small labels are VITAL to young new bands. They give them time to learn and time to make mistakes before their careers really take off. But there's no way bands should be recording 5 or 6 albums for a label who, and let's be completely honest here, simply cannot provide the elements that the bands need to make it into the big time. So what's the alternative? Nobody wants to see bands being signed for tax losses like they were at the end of the 80's again, even thought it still happens all the time. I don't particularly want to see a great band like FM flounder under the eyes of Sony, and end up with huge debts again. For those scenarios not to occur this scene needs new blood, both in the bands and in the labels. The danger being that once a passion becomes your job, the passion DOES wane. The advantage now is this, the net. Loads of bands now have 'Street teams or E teams'. Fans who, given the tools from the label, can target other bulletin boards etc and do the marketing for them. Who better? Fans doing the labels work for free, because they feel an affinity for a particular band.

And that's my answer, right? Put it in the hands of the fans? Not entirely, of course not, but it's an avenue that perhaps should be investigated. After all, what is this site, if not a site run by a fan with a passion? There are numerous contributors to this board who have proved themselves extremely knowledgable on many fronts. Some have also displayed a broader sense of just where this scene exists in the greater scheme of things. Those are the people who may be able to inspire others into the scene and then, hopefully, it may filter down into a younger audience.

All that said, I believe there are bands already signed to majors that hold appeal for both older and younger fans of melodic music. The only thing holding them back is the very conservatism that Tony Harnell spoke of in his first post.

Adapt or die!

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A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 156Mark Ashton06/24/2001 02:18AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 126Tony M06/24/2001 03:25AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 126Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:50AM
To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 102Kieran06/24/2001 04:09AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 108TC06/24/2001 04:22AM
Re: To Mark Ashton and Tony Harnell 344 Danny Danzi 06/24/2001 04:21PM
Re:Stick around to what you know you do best !! 104 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/25/2001 09:05AM
AN IDEA.... 143 Tavas 06/25/2001 02:28AM
good point... 118 sfk kurt 06/25/2001 06:51AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 115Tony Harnell06/24/2001 03:40AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 94John Q06/24/2001 05:16AM
Good post! 90 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 04:41AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post128Surfpunk06/24/2001 04:56AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 119 Misterpomp 06/24/2001 05:40AM
Return 109Surfpunk06/24/2001 09:24AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 104Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:26PM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 118Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:56PM
the bottom line 118 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 05:48AM
Re: the bottom line 111 Mike Matney 06/24/2001 06:59AM
Re: the bottom line 96Mark Ashton06/24/2001 07:59PM
Hey Mark 106 sfk kurt 06/24/2001 10:51PM
Re: the bottom line 110Tony Harnell06/24/2001 11:59PM
Rebuttle 114 Captain Can Man 06/24/2001 06:43AM
Are you the only 'rocker' left in Atlanta... 102 koogles 06/24/2001 11:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 100Tony Harnell06/24/2001 12:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 123Mark Ashton06/24/2001 08:09PM
Re: Rebuttle 85 Carl1 06/24/2001 08:26PM
Ditto.. (np) 120 Andrew 06/24/2001 08:34PM
Re: Rebuttle 116Tony Harnell06/25/2001 12:06AM
Re: Rebuttle 115Peter M. Bietenholz06/24/2001 11:57PM
Re: Rebuttle 99 Captain Can Man 06/25/2001 04:31AM
Thank You Tony! 115 Ten_K_Lovers_N1 06/26/2001 05:31AM
Re: A couple of points re:Tony Harnell`s post 104Gav06/24/2001 10:29PM
young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 116 Tavas 06/25/2001 03:03AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 117 Danny Danzi 06/25/2001 07:28AM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY YES!! 107 Brian 06/25/2001 01:41PM
indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 92 Tavas 06/25/2001 05:14PM
Re: indeed THIS IS THE TIME !!!! 86 Mike Matney 06/25/2001 09:08PM
Hey Danny! 113Surfpunk06/26/2001 03:54AM
Re: Hey Danny! 114 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 08:21AM
Re: Hey Danny 106Tony Harnell06/26/2001 02:29PM
2 cents worth.... 102 Captain Can Man 06/26/2001 03:33PM
Re: Hey Danny 125 Danny Danzi 06/26/2001 05:16PM
Hey now! 113John Q06/26/2001 08:07PM
Re: Hey now! 104Tony Harnell06/27/2001 02:20AM
Re: Hey now! 135 Fran 06/27/2001 02:49AM
For the record... 122Surfpunk06/27/2001 06:12AM
Question for Tony & Danni........... 95 Mrpool 06/27/2001 08:13AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 110 SegaNinja 06/27/2001 09:31AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 115Tony Harnell06/27/2001 10:21AM
Re: Slightly Off topic 112 ted poley 07/01/2001 01:43PM
Re: Question for Tony & Danni........... 121 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:28PM
Re: Hey now! 123John Q06/27/2001 12:44PM
Re: Hey now! 129 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:52PM
Don't Dream It's Over..... 123 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 01:23PM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 143Tony Harnell06/28/2001 12:47AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 138 Captain Can Man 06/28/2001 04:51AM
Re: Don't Dream It's Over..... 110Tony Harnell06/28/2001 10:42AM
Re: Hey now! 148 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 07:08AM
Dear MLover... 123John Q06/27/2001 11:15AM
Re: Dear John... 147 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:48PM
Re: Hey now! 114 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 11:57AM
Danny! 117 Captain Can Man 06/27/2001 12:49PM
Re: Danny! 107 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 01:00PM
Re: Hey Danny 120 Peter M. Bietenholz 06/27/2001 07:35AM
Peter, 114Surfpunk06/27/2001 08:19AM
Re: Peter, I agree !! . 132 Melodic Lover ( Spain ) 06/27/2001 10:23AM
Re: Hey Danny 117 Danny Danzi 06/27/2001 12:13PM
Re: Hey Danny/Well said (np) 126Darkman06/27/2001 07:03PM
Re: young people ?? ==> AIRPLAY 125 Brian 06/25/2001 01:39PM

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