RE: Koogles ur only half right
Posted by:
Drewness
()
Date: January 16, 2001 03:59PM
So let me get this correctly.You need to sell10,000 units to keep yer spot on the team.But cdr burning would lead to a band being without a recording deal,because without a deal the band would not have a cd.And that would make it harder for that band to draw people to it`s Live shows.What Live shows are YOU talking about?You said it yourself that the Lions share of all this goes to the label-Why are`nt they sponsoring TOURS!!!! I mean tours where the money is!!! Not in Wingamm or whatever the hell it is,or in Switzerland...The money`s in the States! You said-The only option is thru sales-"Do you work for MTM"?You said yourself that the label is the biggset bennefactor of sales."If sales are cannabalized because of cdrs what`s left" The answer is-less for the record companies that make the Lion`s share anyway! Tell me what happens to those bands that sell 10,000 units? Are they touring? Has Steelhouse Lane ever toured?They must SELL-They`ve got 2 cds out and are working on a third.Do ya think Mike Slamer was shafted when I burned those 2 cds for my brother?
koogles wrote:
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I think, Mike, in a large sense, you are right about labels getting a lion's share of the profits. However, when you're talking about smaller European hard rock labels, I think the benefits of being an artist are greater. Let's face it: MTM and Z Records don't have to put up large amounts of money for two-page ads in Billboard magazine or foot seven-digit production costs for a video clip. Mind you, the chances of an artist going double platinum are pretty slim, so everything is to scale, I suppose.
What I've been told is that an artist on MTM needs to move 10,000 units in order to earn its keep on the label's roster. Erosion of this "quota", if you will, due to CD burning could obviously lead to a band being out of a record deal. Without a CD, it's that much harder for a band to draw numbers on the live circuit. The two go hand in hand: you hear a CD by a band- you want to see them live. Or the reverse: you see a great band live and the next question is: do they have a CD?
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Can I just say...
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Yes you can..
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