RE: Koogles ur only half right
Posted by: Drewness ()
Date: January 16, 2001 03:59PM

So let me get this correctly.You need to sell10,000 units to keep yer spot on the team.But cdr burning would lead to a band being without a recording deal,because without a deal the band would not have a cd.And that would make it harder for that band to draw people to it`s Live shows.What Live shows are YOU talking about?You said it yourself that the Lions share of all this goes to the label-Why are`nt they sponsoring TOURS!!!! I mean tours where the money is!!! Not in Wingamm or whatever the hell it is,or in Switzerland...The money`s in the States! You said-The only option is thru sales-"Do you work for MTM"?You said yourself that the label is the biggset bennefactor of sales."If sales are cannabalized because of cdrs what`s left" The answer is-less for the record companies that make the Lion`s share anyway! Tell me what happens to those bands that sell 10,000 units? Are they touring? Has Steelhouse Lane ever toured?They must SELL-They`ve got 2 cds out and are working on a third.Do ya think Mike Slamer was shafted when I burned those 2 cds for my brother?

koogles wrote:
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I think, Mike, in a large sense, you are right about labels getting a lion's share of the profits. However, when you're talking about smaller European hard rock labels, I think the benefits of being an artist are greater. Let's face it: MTM and Z Records don't have to put up large amounts of money for two-page ads in Billboard magazine or foot seven-digit production costs for a video clip. Mind you, the chances of an artist going double platinum are pretty slim, so everything is to scale, I suppose.

What I've been told is that an artist on MTM needs to move 10,000 units in order to earn its keep on the label's roster. Erosion of this "quota", if you will, due to CD burning could obviously lead to a band being out of a record deal. Without a CD, it's that much harder for a band to draw numbers on the live circuit. The two go hand in hand: you hear a CD by a band- you want to see them live. Or the reverse: you see a great band live and the next question is: do they have a CD?

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My CD-R Trade Site 214 coco 01/15/2001 07:30AM
CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 168 koogles 01/16/2001 07:44AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 158 coco 01/16/2001 08:20AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 193 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 11:02AM
Trading still cripples the artist, label 170 koogles 01/16/2001 01:01PM
RE: Trading still cripples the artist, label 161 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 07:46PM
RE: Trading still cripples the artist, label 143 koogles 01/17/2001 12:45AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 152 koogles 01/16/2001 12:47PM
Koogles ur only half right 153 mike 01/16/2001 02:24PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 170 koogles 01/16/2001 03:04PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 161Drewness01/16/2001 03:59PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right182Drewness01/16/2001 03:59PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 168 koogles 01/17/2001 12:15AM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 156 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 07:50PM
Koogles is completely right - this is theft 166 Mister Pomp 01/16/2001 05:59PM
RE: Koogles is completely right - this is theft 188 coco 01/16/2001 08:04PM
RE: Koogles is completely right - this is theft 157 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 04:50AM
Mr Pomp your right and so am i 157 mike 01/17/2001 05:51AM
RE: Mr Pomp your right and so am i 179 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:46PM
That slippery slope ... 178 Copious K9 01/18/2001 01:39AM
RE: That slippery slope ... 201 Mister Pomp 01/18/2001 04:45AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 149 coco 01/16/2001 05:55PM
RE: Coco- the Artist Desicion maker 153 Eric Abrahamsen 01/16/2001 09:39PM
RE: Coco- the Artist Desicion maker 177 coco 01/16/2001 10:35PM
Living La Vida Coco 159 koogles 01/17/2001 12:02AM
RE: Living La Vida Coco 170 coco 01/17/2001 02:24AM
There's smoke comin' outta yer ears, coco! 162 koogles 01/17/2001 05:32AM
RE: There's smoke comin' outta yer ears, coco! 170 coco 01/17/2001 06:16AM
Cuckoo for coco puffs 180 koogles 01/17/2001 09:02AM
Cuckoo for Koogles 223 coco 01/17/2001 09:37AM
Coco...nuts! 175 koogles 01/17/2001 10:40AM
John Parr 172 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 11:05AM
RE: John Parr 155 capt kaos 01/17/2001 09:05PM
RE: John Parr 164 koogles 01/18/2001 12:36AM
RE: Coco...nuts! 155 coco 01/17/2001 05:45PM
Burn bitch burn 165 koogles 01/18/2001 12:32AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 160 koogles 01/17/2001 12:28AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 182 Dave 01/17/2001 04:30AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 172 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 04:54AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 161 coco 01/17/2001 05:39AM
RE: Coco and being Stupid 170 Eric Abrahamsen 01/17/2001 08:14AM
you're not your (np) 148 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:57PM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 186Bighair01/17/2001 05:16AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 140 coco 01/17/2001 05:47AM
Where are you buying your CDS? 170 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:39PM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 195 koogles 01/17/2001 05:49AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 158 coco 01/17/2001 06:22AM
Can I just say... 184Chris01/17/2001 06:36AM
Yes you can.. 155 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:56PM
Fine... 168Chris01/18/2001 09:12AM
Were you paid for it? 180 Mister Pomp 01/18/2001 05:47PM
RE: Were you paid for it? 187Chris01/19/2001 09:31AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 151 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 08:11AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 178 koogles 01/17/2001 09:18AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 181 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 09:30AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 156 koogles 01/17/2001 10:46AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 169 koogles 01/17/2001 09:06AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 180 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 09:31AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 188 coco 01/17/2001 09:44AM
Uh-oh...the little pirate's getting angry! 145 koogles 01/17/2001 10:10AM
RE: Uh-oh...the little pirate's getting angry! 152 Eric Abrahamsen 01/17/2001 10:27AM
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