RE: Koogles ur only half right
Posted by: koogles ()
Date: January 16, 2001 03:04PM

I think, Mike, in a large sense, you are right about labels getting a lion's share of the profits. However, when you're talking about smaller European hard rock labels, I think the benefits of being an artist are greater. Let's face it: MTM and Z Records don't have to put up large amounts of money for two-page ads in Billboard magazine or foot seven-digit production costs for a video clip. Mind you, the chances of an artist going double platinum are pretty slim, so everything is to scale, I suppose.

What I've been told is that an artist on MTM needs to move 10,000 units in order to earn its keep on the label's roster. Erosion of this "quota", if you will, due to CD burning could obviously lead to a band being out of a record deal. Without a CD, it's that much harder for a band to draw numbers on the live circuit. The two go hand in hand: you hear a CD by a band- you want to see them live. Or the reverse: you see a great band live and the next question is: do they have a CD?

Then there's the question of geography. How many Vaughn fans in Canada, for instance, are going to be able to attend their live shows? Not many, considering touring in Canada isn't even an option for some big name acts. So, the only outlet for support is through sales. But if sales are cannibalized through CDRs, then what's left??

Basically, my bottom line is: just because the artist doesn't see a lot of money from CD sales anyway, doesn't mean it's right to burn their music for free. If you're not hurting the 1-2 out of 10 artists who DO see some gold at the end of the rainbow, then you're hurting the record company. Now maybe in a Sony/Universal/Warner world, some might view that as a good thing. In a MTM/Point/Z/Kivel world, however, it seems almost ungrateful.

koogles

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My CD-R Trade Site 221 coco 01/15/2001 07:30AM
CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 171 koogles 01/16/2001 07:44AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 159 coco 01/16/2001 08:20AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 195 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 11:02AM
Trading still cripples the artist, label 173 koogles 01/16/2001 01:01PM
RE: Trading still cripples the artist, label 164 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 07:46PM
RE: Trading still cripples the artist, label 147 koogles 01/17/2001 12:45AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 162 koogles 01/16/2001 12:47PM
Koogles ur only half right 157 mike 01/16/2001 02:24PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right174 koogles 01/16/2001 03:04PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 164Drewness01/16/2001 03:59PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 187Drewness01/16/2001 03:59PM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 179 koogles 01/17/2001 12:15AM
RE: Koogles ur only half right 158 DantheCDman 01/16/2001 07:50PM
Koogles is completely right - this is theft 167 Mister Pomp 01/16/2001 05:59PM
RE: Koogles is completely right - this is theft 194 coco 01/16/2001 08:04PM
RE: Koogles is completely right - this is theft 161 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 04:50AM
Mr Pomp your right and so am i 160 mike 01/17/2001 05:51AM
RE: Mr Pomp your right and so am i 183 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:46PM
That slippery slope ... 178 Copious K9 01/18/2001 01:39AM
RE: That slippery slope ... 210 Mister Pomp 01/18/2001 04:45AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 153 coco 01/16/2001 05:55PM
RE: Coco- the Artist Desicion maker 156 Eric Abrahamsen 01/16/2001 09:39PM
RE: Coco- the Artist Desicion maker 181 coco 01/16/2001 10:35PM
Living La Vida Coco 160 koogles 01/17/2001 12:02AM
RE: Living La Vida Coco 171 coco 01/17/2001 02:24AM
There's smoke comin' outta yer ears, coco! 165 koogles 01/17/2001 05:32AM
RE: There's smoke comin' outta yer ears, coco! 175 coco 01/17/2001 06:16AM
Cuckoo for coco puffs 181 koogles 01/17/2001 09:02AM
Cuckoo for Koogles 226 coco 01/17/2001 09:37AM
Coco...nuts! 189 koogles 01/17/2001 10:40AM
John Parr 174 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 11:05AM
RE: John Parr 159 capt kaos 01/17/2001 09:05PM
RE: John Parr 166 koogles 01/18/2001 12:36AM
RE: Coco...nuts! 159 coco 01/17/2001 05:45PM
Burn bitch burn 169 koogles 01/18/2001 12:32AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 167 koogles 01/17/2001 12:28AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 185 Dave 01/17/2001 04:30AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 175 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 04:54AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 163 coco 01/17/2001 05:39AM
RE: Coco and being Stupid 173 Eric Abrahamsen 01/17/2001 08:14AM
you're not your (np) 149 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:57PM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 198Bighair01/17/2001 05:16AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 141 coco 01/17/2001 05:47AM
Where are you buying your CDS? 173 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:39PM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 199 koogles 01/17/2001 05:49AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 161 coco 01/17/2001 06:22AM
Can I just say... 186Chris01/17/2001 06:36AM
Yes you can.. 159 Mister Pomp 01/17/2001 05:56PM
Fine... 171Chris01/18/2001 09:12AM
Were you paid for it? 186 Mister Pomp 01/18/2001 05:47PM
RE: Were you paid for it? 189Chris01/19/2001 09:31AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 163 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 08:11AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 191 koogles 01/17/2001 09:18AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 186 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 09:30AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 159 koogles 01/17/2001 10:46AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 179 koogles 01/17/2001 09:06AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 187 DantheCDman 01/17/2001 09:31AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 192 coco 01/17/2001 09:44AM
Uh-oh...the little pirate's getting angry! 149 koogles 01/17/2001 10:10AM
RE: Uh-oh...the little pirate's getting angry! 157 Eric Abrahamsen 01/17/2001 10:27AM
RE: CDRs are bad for the artists, labels 175Bigair01/18/2001 04:50AM


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