http://www.metal-rules.com/metalnews/2013/03/18/bobby-kimball-ex-toto-solo-artist/http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,934750#msg-934750Mon, 20 May 2013 10:18:01 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935423#msg-935423 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935423#msg-935423
For the record... I never said he was the sole 'Voice' of Toto. He was simply my fav and the one who stood out most. I know band ego scenarios quite well,and it's quite possible that Luke and co. harbor a tad of resentment towards bK as he likely got tons of attention for his vocals in the band. I do agree that he slagged them off over things you mentioned and that's not cool. But none of these guys have acted like saints over the long years,as pointed ot by others here. You made very good points for sure. But I still enjoy Bobby's vocal work with Toto more than Luke or Paich (or Williams OR Fergie). And I do like those guys as singers,too. T]]> Terry K. NoticeboardSat, 23 Mar 2013 01:19:56 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935399#msg-935399 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935399#msg-935399 Daredevil NoticeboardFri, 22 Mar 2013 23:41:45 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935392#msg-935392 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935392#msg-935392
99, I'll Be Over You, I won't Hold You Back, Out OF Love to name a few.

Bobby has toured ( I witnessed it in person) in 1994 when TOTO came to Oakbrook Terrace IL when it was BK touring as TOTO. I had the venue change the name as it was fraud.

Bobby Kimball continued touring as TOTO or calling himself the Voice Of Toto ( so did Fergie for over 15 years)
THen that mostly slowed down until Luke A CO-FOUNDER Of Toto along with Paich and company, decided he had enough ( his right he owes nobody a thing fans included after 31 years)

Luke was the main or co-lead songwriter, Lead Guitarist, Co-Lead Singer & Frontman of Toto ( still is) & the only guy who was there for every album, session & live gig. If he wanted 5% more than the others..so what? He decided it was done. Agree or not it was HIS say.

Regardless if you like him as person, singer whatever..Kimballs been ripping off the band, tarnishing the legacy and ILLEGALLY selling TOTO music & merch and promoting himself as Toto or Voice of Toto for the well over 12 years

For the Record..
Toto doesnt need me or anyone to speak for them. They do outstanding business overseas in Europe, Asia and many other markets selling out 20-50,000 seat sheds & festivals while Bobby sullyies his legacy with TOTO ( my opinion) by singing terribly while promoting himself as the REAL VOICE of toto.

I just get pissed off when i see people slagging & ripping Luke & the band for not wanting a guy who can't hack it anymore & who rips them.

BK flat-out cannot hack it anymore and hasnt for a long time (without Auto-tune, Melodyne etc)

He also accuses Joseph Williams & TOTO for singing songs live he, BK originated ( Hilarious as They mostly cover Paich, Luke & JW songs)

Hmmmm see here in this video ( skip along for songs played) & see for yourself how many songs BK does that not only he never sang on but Wasn't even in the band at the time they were recorded/released! Yeah Voice of the band Toto my ass.


for your listening pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-LGlOulgu4 Nov. 2012 live

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1OWIOjje2M Live in Asia 2009?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX_ymJTe6UM Africa 2008 live]]> geetarzrgood NoticeboardFri, 22 Mar 2013 22:08:22 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935265#msg-935265 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935265#msg-935265 Terry K. NoticeboardFri, 22 Mar 2013 04:10:31 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935240#msg-935240 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935240#msg-935240
Caught In The Balance and Mad About You are my two faves from that particular album and I play them a lot.


// Figge]]> Figge NoticeboardFri, 22 Mar 2013 02:27:43 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935213#msg-935213 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935213#msg-935213
To this day Caught In The Balance is one of my fave songs from anyone ever and one of the first tracks I use to test out a stereo system.]]> the ORIGINAL brent NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 23:26:04 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935173#msg-935173 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935173#msg-935173 Daredevil NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 19:23:29 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935136#msg-935136 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935136#msg-935136
> So it's factual that he wanted his name on the
> album cover that way? Proof of this info? And...I
> know what a deacon is,smartass. I see one every
> weekend in church. You know...in 'fantasy' land.
> ;-) T


Deacon John?
When the first album was released John appeared as Deacon John. As he was new to the group, John didn't protest at what the others thought a more 'exotic' name. By the second album, John asserted himself and was credited appropriately.]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 12:01:24 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935115#msg-935115 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935115#msg-935115 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 09:11:26 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935113#msg-935113 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935113#msg-935113 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 09:08:59 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935110#msg-935110 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935110#msg-935110 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 09:07:32 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935087#msg-935087 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935087#msg-935087
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmx4twCK3_I

Apparently if it's written down, it must be a fact!]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 08:03:41 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935083#msg-935083 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935083#msg-935083
Do you really believe this was an oversight? Yes, Bobby is singing on that chorus. It's just not a lead vocal and therefore the credits are correct.

However, does it really matter? I don't think so. I am just glad, that Joe Williams is back with them and I'll be able to enjoy a Toto show with an adequate lead singer this coming June :-)]]> Daredevil NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 07:46:27 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935078#msg-935078 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935078#msg-935078
> You know what,DD? It matters NOT what the sleeve
> says--if it doesn't include Kimball singing on
> Africa,then it's just an oversight. It happens on
> occasion. There are many miscues that make it to
> print. Look at the bassists name on the first
> Queen record--Deacon John (??). T

That wasnt an oversight, it's what he was known as in the early days of Queen. A Deacon's a ministry in the church, like a vicar or priest.

I only come on here to educate dumb Yanks...that's Theology and Physics sorted...NEXT...]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:57:08 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935073#msg-935073 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935073#msg-935073
Gotta admit it,DD--yer scarin' me here. or maybe you just want to drag out this thread to see how long we'll bite(?). I sure hope it's the later,guy. Toto had three accomplished singers who obviously WANTED to sing lead on some of their tunes--espescially since they WROTE alot of them. But they also knew the huge value in having Bobby in the band to have that great variety/mix of singing styles within one band. KImball was a natch standout for his clear,high tenor. It's a headturner and gave them that much more ammo as a group. It's just that simple,really. I'm glad they still went on to do well w/o BK,but I for one never thought of them quite as highly after IV. Never even got KOD or Tambu til more recently,and admittedly don't go back to them tho I think they're decent enough. if I want to hear classic Toto--it's those first 4 any & every time for me. T

PS: in all honesty-- I think the band struggled greatly to find a replacement for Bobby. They were o the fast track to stardom with IV with those monster singles-and them already being an established act with other hits from earlier records. It was a damn shame they couldn't continue with BK as they'd have been HUGE. Instead--they did just ok and kind of faded out here in the US by & large. Cool they remained popular in other parts of the world,tho. Even so--you can tell how Luke is/was MAJORLY bummed about their lack of momentum here in their native land. I'll bet he always harbored some pretty strong regrets of how that all came down with Bobby having to leave. Right on the brink of super stardom...]]> Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:41:18 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935072#msg-935072 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935072#msg-935072 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:28:02 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935071#msg-935071 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935071#msg-935071 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:24:21 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935070#msg-935070 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935070#msg-935070 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:21:21 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935067#msg-935067 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935067#msg-935067
> You are correct Gary! You know more about "open
> space" than anybody else on the board, so I trust
> your judgement! :)

Whatever...]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 06:00:09 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935065#msg-935065 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935065#msg-935065 Captain Can Man NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 05:55:43 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935050#msg-935050 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935050#msg-935050 gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 04:42:29 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935047#msg-935047 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935047#msg-935047
> It's a 3 part harmony.
>
> "It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you"
> (highest register) sung by BK
>
> "There's Nothing that a hundred men or more could
> ever do"
> High part still BK with DP and SL singing a low
> harmony
>
> "I Bless the rains down in Africa" and onwards
> High register BK, Low harmony DP, new middle
> harmony taken by SL
>
> That's how I hear it. There can be no doubt BK
> takes the high part. Think of 1990s Toto, DP and
> SL were still in the band but the high part live
> was always taken by the female backing singers or
> Byron.

Timmy B. Scmidt's in there somewhere too, just to confuse matters further :)]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 04:26:16 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935046#msg-935046 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935046#msg-935046
> I never said that Bobby was singing the chorus BY
> HIMSELF! LOL
>
> Of course the guys are doing harmonies but
> Daredevil keeps trying to say that Bobby is not
> singing the lead and he CLEARLY is.
>
> It's very frustrating when the sky is blue and
> someone keeps trying to prove that it is yellow!
> LOL

The sky isn't blue, it just appears to be due to Rayleigh scattering...in fact it is, at times, yellow...]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 04:17:52 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935045#msg-935045 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935045#msg-935045
Of course the guys are doing harmonies but Daredevil keeps trying to say that Bobby is not singing the lead and he CLEARLY is.

It's very frustrating when the sky is blue and someone keeps trying to prove that it is yellow! LOL]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 04:13:12 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935040#msg-935040 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935040#msg-935040
> It's a 3 part harmony.
>
> "It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you"
> (highest register) sung by BK
>
> "There's Nothing that a hundred men or more could
> ever do"
> High part still BK with DP and SL singing a low
> harmony
>
> "I Bless the rains down in Africa" and onwards
> High register BK, Low harmony DP, new middle
> harmony taken by SL
>
> That's how I hear it. There can be no doubt BK
> takes the high part. Think of 1990s Toto, DP and
> SL were still in the band but the high part live
> was always taken by the female backing singers or
> Byron.

Spot on, shame to ruin the chimps' tea party that preceded your contribution though ! :)]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 03:43:28 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935039#msg-935039 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935039#msg-935039 Captain Can Man NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 03:42:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935024#msg-935024 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935024#msg-935024
"It's gonna take a lot to drag me away from you"
(highest register) sung by BK

"There's Nothing that a hundred men or more could ever do"
High part still BK with DP and SL singing a low harmony

"I Bless the rains down in Africa" and onwards
High register BK, Low harmony DP, new middle harmony taken by SL

That's how I hear it. There can be no doubt BK takes the high part. Think of 1990s Toto, DP and SL were still in the band but the high part live was always taken by the female backing singers or Byron.]]> MetroGnome NoticeboardThu, 21 Mar 2013 01:59:46 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935003#msg-935003 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,935003#msg-935003 Andrew NoticeboardWed, 20 Mar 2013 23:17:59 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,934991#msg-934991 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,934991#msg-934991
"Seventh One" is good, but like a lot of their stuff there are quite a lot of fillers. Not necessarily bad songs, but songs that compare poorly to their great songs.

The first three albums are in my opinion in average better than the rest, with the exception of "Tambu". I think "Falling IN Between" had a lot of good moments too, and to the contrary of many I enjoyed their cover album.

Actually, the only voice I really like is David Paich's. He is probably the least good technically, but as I am not a fan of high pitched singers, he is the one I prefer.

Toto for me really is at their best in a live setting.]]> Laurent NoticeboardWed, 20 Mar 2013 22:18:36 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,934989#msg-934989 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,934750,934989#msg-934989
Still, that says nothing about the record. Read the sleeve. It cannot be read incorrectly at all. Listen to the song. You can hear Bobby sharing the chorus with Luke. That's it.]]> Daredevil NoticeboardWed, 20 Mar 2013 22:04:50 +1100