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<description> Just wanted to know how the car buying experience is outside the USA. I am in the process and I must say it is the &amp;quot;dirtiest&amp;quot; experience one can go thru here as it is so dishonest and rigged. How is it in others countries? I know they all the lawyers go to help but I think there are more car salesman there then that.</description><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928519#msg-928519</link><lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 07:11:27 +1000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928794#msg-928794</link><description><![CDATA[ Agree. I think a fleet car or certified used is the way to go. I mean if someone here leased a car for 3 years and had all its service then it's like getting a new car without the markup. I got a call from the owner of the dealership. I was working so I will call back today and see what he is doing]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928666#msg-928666</link><description><![CDATA[ Me in the future I will buy a certified used at a dealer. For starters the original owner got burned and with certified you know it had all its scheduled maintainance. You can then know the price and options thru Kelly Blue Book.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928665#msg-928665</link><description><![CDATA[ I've got a fairly old (8 years) Mazda 6 that does barely 5K a year as we use my wife's company car (52 plate Mondeo Titanium X) for pretty much everything (she does over 50k a year).<br /><br />I'll probably buy the Mondeo in a couple of years time when she gets a new one, as MCFCTrick says, it'll be high mileage but will have a full service history, everytime anything goes wrong, it just gets fixed/replaced etc. and the lease company will virtually pay you to take it off their hands !]]></description>
<dc:creator>gary191265</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928655#msg-928655</link><description><![CDATA[ It is a minefield....and after getting burned a few times, I now simply buy my missus's company car on it's 'retirement'. As said above, it's high mileage, but totally looked after by the dealers garage.<br /><br />Got her Volvo S60, 90k on the clock, three years old for £5k....still running now at 9 years old and a dream to drive....]]></description>
<dc:creator>MCFCTrick</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928621#msg-928621</link><description><![CDATA[ Used cars are so cheap in the UK compared to Australia.<br />I just bought a 5 years old car with 50K on the clock for $20K.<br />Even here we get ripped by a thing called CTP, Compulsory Third Party insurance, which is mandatory, even if you have fully comprehensive insurance!]]></description>
<dc:creator>pure666metal</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928599#msg-928599</link><description><![CDATA[ I think you are right, Eric!<br /><br />Paul]]></description>
<dc:creator>pjs</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928597#msg-928597</link><description><![CDATA[ LOL...if you drove with Parker or Frank Martin then your hair must be white LOL.<br /><br /><br />My problem is/was (as I backed out and wrote a letter to the dealership GM) that I know my credit rating so I know I'm a Tier 1 and what Toyota Financial gives as a % rate. With that we had the price down. $429 a month. So he asked if I could come in on Saturday (this being last Tuesday). He still didn't hear back from the bank. Saturday comes he tells me quickly it went thru come on down. I called back and asked before I drive there do mean &quot;it went thru&quot; at the price we discussed. He then says &quot;Yeah $449&quot;. Now I know its $20 but he gave me PS about my credit....which is great! I say deals off....he says....Its only $20 dollars! Believe that crap!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928577#msg-928577</link><description><![CDATA[ never had a problem with cars. my limousine driver and former sas squad member 'parker' takes care of all the pesky thing like registration and insurance.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ydde</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:37:05 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928573#msg-928573</link><description><![CDATA[ You are correct about cars being money pits. After mine was &quot;killed&quot; in October 2008, I chose not to replace it. (I couldn't afford to either, as the book price for a written off car with 125k on the clock was negligible.) I had a Toyota, and it would have gone on and on and on...just as my previous one did. What I miss most is the really great sound system I had in the car!<br /><br />Now to comment on the original question, in all the years I bought cars in the UK (Mark 3 Cortina, Mark 4 Cortina, (new) Ford Fiesta, Vauxhall Astra, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Toyota Corolla, another Toyota Crolla (the one that was &quot;killed&quot;)) the only one that I ever had issues with was the new Ford Fiesta bought from a main dealership. They (and it) were both utterly awful and led to my never buying anotrher Ford again (as you can see). All experiences of buying pre-owned cars were totally fine, and I always felt I got a good deal for a good car.<br /><br />Paul]]></description>
<dc:creator>pjs</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 23:14:59 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928564#msg-928564</link><description><![CDATA[ If you're buying used in the UK then a fleet car is your best bet. They have higher mileage but have been regularly maintained and the mileage is usually motorway gained.<br />But cars are money pits, especially with the level of UK taxation (general and stealth) that is aimed at the motorist.]]></description>
<dc:creator>rocknut</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 21:29:18 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928556#msg-928556</link><description><![CDATA[ I bought new and second-hand cars in 5 countries, and it all comes down to the garage / individual you are working with.<br /><br />My experiences have generally speaking been very good. In Switzerland, I had 5 cars (1 new) and only 1 second-hand car gave me headache. I bought all the other ones from the same guy, and never had a problem.<br /><br />In South Africa, I got a good second-hand car but it was a company car.<br /><br />In Cyprus, I bought a second-hand car and it was really good. I gave it to a friend and he is still using it. The second-hand market in Cyprus is rather good.<br /><br />In Lebanon, I would not touch second-hand car. I bought new only.<br /><br />In Bahrain, the second-hand market is really good. I bought a Jaguar X type (8 years old) for a really good price (ca. EUR 6,000) and was really happy with it. There is a big turnover of expats here, so cars are generally in good condition and rather new (2-5 years). I recently bought a new VW Tiguan new. My wife also drives a VW which we bought almost new (18 months).]]></description>
<dc:creator>Laurent</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:50:53 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928530#msg-928530</link><description><![CDATA[ Unless your buying brand new it's always a bit of a risk.Myself i've only just got rid of my 1 series bmw and traded it in for a used 4x4 which low and behold already has problems.I've a months warranty so,it's gone back to the garage to be fixed(which they've said they will do).<br />As for the sellers,i know they are somewhat eager for your custom,it's they're job at the end of the day so i never really see it as dirty or dishonest.<br />At the the end of the day,make sure you know what you want before you leave the house,don't worry about the spiel the salesman will give you,if it does not fit your criteria,either spec or financially,then just leave it.If you think it's right for you then give it a go,at the end of the day it you don't like it after buying then you can always trade it in and try something else.]]></description>
<dc:creator>go rock</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:48:32 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>OT : Buying a car in the UK/Europe</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,928519,928519#msg-928519</link><description><![CDATA[ Just wanted to know how the car buying experience is outside the USA. I am in the process and I must say it is the &quot;dirtiest&quot; experience one can go thru here as it is so dishonest and rigged. How is it in others countries? I know they all the lawyers go to help but I think there are more car salesman there then that.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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