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<description>As an American, I am so ashamed of what my country plays for &quot;music&quot; nowadays. Sure there are some melodic rock/AOR bands but the majority of them come from Europe, mainly Sweden.

Can someone tell me why this is? Is this music popular there? Is it actually played on the radio, people know the songs, etc?

Cause not only am I 22 and love this music, I can't talk to anyone, ANYONE that knows this website and style of music.

It sucks!</description><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927346#msg-927346</link><lastBuildDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:39:13 +1000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927573#msg-927573</link><description><![CDATA[ Though guys like Harry Hess have a songwriting contract with Nashville maybe there are others...Dan Huff]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927566#msg-927566</link><description><![CDATA[ Great Terry. This trend seemed to happen in the 90's when rock radio just played the Sam stuff. What I am saying if a classic rock radio station plays old VH and Deep Purple ect play there new stuff. Believe me if a track is not liked the listeners will let you know. On the other hand if they like it it will translate into sales, not millions but enough to see the difference]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927560#msg-927560</link><description><![CDATA[ At one of my gigs recently,the bar was cranking old AC/DC (Bon Scott era) when we got there and while we were setting up. The air was electric-I hadn't heard some of those tunes in ages (and had sung most of 'em at one time or another). Now THAT thar is the power of music! Needless to say, I was stoked to hit the stage that night! :-) T<br /><br />PS: last night after the show, they were playing new Country over the system. It sounded like melodic rock with twang,just as some have mentioned. I would've dug it alot w/o the twang,but it's tough to hear new Country get played a ton and be hugely popular,while our beloved melrock that's just as GOOD gets left behind in the dust. Damd shame and a crime!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927559#msg-927559</link><description><![CDATA[ Got all three of their proper studio releases,BHA. Love the band and hopefully will get to see 'em play someday. Being here in WNY, I'm not sure they'll get to my neck of the woods. Tho the new cd seems to be taking them to that next level of popularity. Again--with radio airplay,it'd happen MUCH,much faster for them. Hard working live band and they're doing all the right things to be out there in front of fans- supporting huge names like ZZ,Skynyrd,etc. Long may they rock! T<br /><br />PS: as long as we're in the middle of this topic/thread--can't think of barely any song from their new cd that wouldn't be cool to hear on rock radio...but if I had to pick a lead off track,it'd probably be 'Leave A Scar'. That one cranks! :-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927557#msg-927557</link><description><![CDATA[ No real way to know this,Niv--unless it was tested. And it won't be,so I guess your theory is safe. ;-) T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: The UK.....</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927556#msg-927556</link><description><![CDATA[ There is most DEFINITELY a difference between the UK and the US with this factor. Melodic rock in many forms was HUGE here for many years (70's til around '90). Yeah--some termed it as 'corporate rock',but all of our heritage beloved acts grew to be just that because radio played their stuff day in and day out. You can't say something can't/won't be popular if no one gets to hear it. Plain &amp; simple. T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927555#msg-927555</link><description><![CDATA[ Well.... djs started digging their own grave when they started acting like some kind of 'star comedian',wanting to be the next Howard Stern or whatever. Granted,every dj NEEDS a personality,but I think alot of them went too far with the bs on air and turned lots of listeners off. This and the same songs repetition factor killed rock radio. It's easy to say that most folks want to hear those same tired tunes. But let's play devil's advocate-- just exactly WHEN did this all happen. You have to realize that every song that gets repeated to death on radio was BRAND NEW at some point (it's release date,of course). And so....radio PLAYED songs from a new album,eventually whittling down to the 'most popular'song/songs from any given release. It's where we stand today and have for many years now (at least two decades now!! Yikes..). So theoretically,moving ahead (not that it'll happen) any new format would need to include SOME classic songs ALONG with selected great newer material peppered into the mix to get listeners hooked into it. Many,many great songs to choose from-even currently. sory to be so persistent with this idea,but I know it would work. Maybe not just overnight,but there is simply WAY too much great music still being made that gets largely ignored by the masses. Case in point-- the keyboardist from my second band &amp; I ride to most of our shows. I brought along the new Van Halen for him to check out. He never even knew they HAD a new cd out (or forgot). He asked me if radio was playing any songs from it. I of course laughed and said--you ARE kidding me,right? Now go ahead and tell me how that cd wouldn't have sold boatloads more if radio had supported it. it's a damn fine comeback with many radio friendly tunes on it. But without the radio support..huge loss in potential sales. You can argue that the band toured and made people aware of their new cd. GReat--but it's only part of the whole market push. Music fans need that daily in your face/ears push to get their attention. We all know how songs grow on us after 3-4 times hearing them. Radio used to offer that listening opportunity to fans. Just how big would ANY of our fav heritage bands be today without radio airplay back when? They'd have stayed niche artists,just as the ones trying to make a dent today have to settle for. Think about it.. T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927553#msg-927553</link><description><![CDATA[ Right on the money Scott with DJ's....a lost art]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927545#msg-927545</link><description><![CDATA[ Well G3LesPaul (i love that name) as most have said play what you like and play it loud!!<br /><br />When i was in high school (75-79) disco was peaking, but if you went to a keg party it was classic rock that was blasting.<br /><br />Rock on Brother!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927544#msg-927544</link><description><![CDATA[ I'll second that Terry, you'd love Blackberry Smoke.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927543#msg-927543</link><description><![CDATA[ Standing ovation for that post Bighair!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927542#msg-927542</link><description><![CDATA[ Hey steve we didn't call it 80's music in the 70's ;-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927541#msg-927541</link><description><![CDATA[ Exactly Paul. I love to watch Crossroads to see country and rock come together.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927539#msg-927539</link><description><![CDATA[ Hell Terry there's a lot of country music that's more rock and roll then the pop/rap autotuned crap that's shove our way. Most radio stations are now owned by large corporations who broadcast via satellite to most of their stations. Very rare to have a radio station with any power that has a life DJ. Back when i was a 15-25 year old kid live DJs had a little freedom to intoduce new music. those days are long gone. That's why i've turned to the internet to learn about new music. Most of the people i know would rather listen to the same old songs over and over.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927518#msg-927518</link><description><![CDATA[ Terry, if you haven't already, I invite you to check out Blackberry Smoke. This is modern day southern rock in the great tradition of the old days.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWHQ4bD72U" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWHQ4bD72U</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvKJBdomvE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPvKJBdomvE</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIlt-a4Gnww" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIlt-a4Gnww</a>]]></description>
<dc:creator>2_EdgedSword</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927517#msg-927517</link><description><![CDATA[ Bollocks... lol!<br />It was late and my fingers were cold from this treacherous weather :-p<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927515#msg-927515</link><description><![CDATA[ I disagree. I didn't say it would take over the world but exposure works for any music or in fact product in the world. So classic rock radio played on 2 for Tuesday one classic and something new the exposure would have an effect. Look at what exposure does for the next untalented Justin Beaver. They find a look, auto tune some some and give airplay and press and boom! Again is Whitesnake going to sell 1,000,000 copies if they played Love Will Set You Free, of course not. But there would be a small increase in sales.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927513#msg-927513</link><description><![CDATA[ &quot;It wouldn't sell fuck all.&quot;<br /><br /><br />You may want to rethink that statement ;)]]></description>
<dc:creator>Coco</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927511#msg-927511</link><description><![CDATA[ Another thing I think people underestimate is how many people would turn up to some of these gigs if they knew about them.<br /><br />I'm going to Journey/Deep Purple and Extreme in the next few months and in both cases NONE of the half a dozen people going with me (all of whom are dead keen) would've known if I hadn't told them.<br /><br />People of our vintage (late 30's, early 40's) just don't see/track down gig guides any more on the off chance of seeing a band we like. I do my best but still miss the odd one. Years ago when I spent more time in the city it was a lot easier - you see the flyers and stuff like Beat magazine lying about. Less and less people know work/study in the city now.<br /><br />Not that I'm a huge fan but I didn't find out until too late that Nightwish and Epica were in town in recent times.]]></description>
<dc:creator>the ORIGINAL brent</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: The UK.....</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927499#msg-927499</link><description><![CDATA[ In this country the more prominent the guitar becomes the less seriously the music is taken. It's been that way since I was old enough to notice and it will never change.]]></description>
<dc:creator>rocknut</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927477#msg-927477</link><description><![CDATA[ I get ya.<br />However I think for the most part the fans at these gigs are still the only people that buy the merch anyway, so I don't think those kind of sales would be drastically altered...<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927471#msg-927471</link><description><![CDATA[ Niv you missed the point about downloading. It reference is to older bands having success even when no longer popular as it was for 60's and 70's bands after they fell from favor. Imagine a minute no Internet. And pick any remotely popular 80's band doing a reunion/heritage show. If you enjoyed the show and out at the merch stand was a new record a fair amount would buy it. Sure it wouldnt chart or even be played but at the end of a US tour they would 50-60,000 copies. Back in the day the older bands still made money. That was the reference to illegal downloading though I still stand by my opinion if some new music on a classic rock station was played people would like it.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927466#msg-927466</link><description><![CDATA[ First it's the radio's fault, then it's kids illegally downloading's fault.<br />How many kids are illegally downloading the music featured in this site?<br />It's no one's fault, it's just old music that's past it's prime now.<br />Gangsta Rap is nowhere near as prolific in the charts now as it was 10 years ago, even that has evolved into a more mainstream dancey r&amp;b...<br />The world has moved on and AOR got left behind.<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927465#msg-927465</link><description><![CDATA[ The clue is in the title &quot;nostalgia tours&quot;.<br />That's why they sell well.<br />If Journey announced they'd play only Eclipse in it's entirety on their upcoming headline tour, and if the opening act was one of H.E.A.T, Eclipse, Lionville, Degreed, Crash Diet instead of Thunder and Whitesnake announced they were playing their two latest albums back to back.<br />It wouldn't sell fuck all.<br />The tours sell, because they are named acts playing greatest hits sets.<br />When I saw Styx/Foreigner and Journey a few years back, the place was packed, and after Foreigner's excellent hits-only set the girl in front of me turned to her mate and said &quot;well they was quite good, but I can't believe after all that they didn't play &quot;Just A Small Town Girl&quot;...&quot;<br />That's how it's seen and that's what people want. Greatest Hits bands that all just sound alike, upbeat pop-rock from the 80's with a few huge ballads thrown in.<br />Most people's dream tour on this site would probably be something Damn Yankees, a Giant Reunion and a Bad English reunion. But they'd struggle to sell out a small theatre (or a large pub!) in the UK with that line-up...<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927463#msg-927463</link><description><![CDATA[ Even at it's height of popularity, where most of the genre favourites were achieving numbers 1's globally... most peopled laughed it off as corporate rock.<br />AOR was always classed as &quot;Any Old Rubbish&quot; by the UK media.<br />It's never been credible.<br />When Steve Perry dies, we won't all be going to the cinema to see a film about his life...<br />Ray Charles, Johnny Cash, Kurt Cobain (sort of), Elvis, John Lennon on the other hand...<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927461#msg-927461</link><description><![CDATA[ If Journey recorded a song that sounded like One Direction and released it under a fake name, with no pictures in their press release, it'd be all over radio.<br />If Journey recorded a song that sounded like Journey under a fake name and a press release that said they were all 21... it would still tank.<br />The only reason the Donny Osmond hit did so well under a disguised name, was because it was completely different musically.<br />Same thing has been done by Cliff Richards and The Alarm over here.<br />But it's because they are releasing something that's totally different from what they are known for and that's why they release it under an assumed name to get it a chance.<br />You could release anything off of the new Pride Of Lions or Lionville or AOR or FM, etc under a fake name and say they are all young guys in their 20s making great music in the press release... people will still not like it because it doesn't sound like current music.<br />Dare, FM, Thunder and The (very well connected in the music world) Answer have all had radio play on mainstream British radio, and Thunder even charted, but it never lead to huge success or the re-birth of melodic rock. Journey is played almost daily on mainstream British radio with Don't Stop Believing. How well did anything off of Eclipse do as a result of that?<br />So no, more radio play won't make a bit of difference.<br />And in answer to the question in the title of the thread, Why isn't it popular in America? Why would it be, it's not popular anywhere else either... :-)<br />It's a niche market, and that's why we have this site and little festivals like Firefest and HRH AOR. That's more than alot of other genre's can hope for, and laughably small to others. It is what it is.<br />Niv]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927434#msg-927434</link><description><![CDATA[ And with radio take Sirus/XM's &quot;new metal&quot; stations. Liquid Metal &amp; Octane. If you look in revolver at the Top 20 its new releases and from some older acts! Boneyard was popular under KK and older fans I talked to didn't realize these old bands had new stuff out and that similar bands were also making new music. Yes it wasn't going to conquer the world but exposed there would be some increase...its only logical]]></description>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927432#msg-927432</link><description><![CDATA[ I see your point but I think what hurts his generation of music is the illegal downloading and just state of the record business. Now I will base this on NY and the USA. In the 60's and 70's when an act was big and had there heyday they became heritage acts. In NY they played smaller theaters (2,000-3,000). They even came out with new music. Granted the music never made it on the radio but at these shows they sold there music (cassette) and made a s**t load of money. The album never charted because it wasn't released the old way. So they were getting $10-$15 for new music plus the show and they did this throughout the USA. So while I laughed at my dad for seeing some &quot;has been&quot; it was still paying for the artist. With downloading and the industry not changing with the times our artist....rock....its harder to make a living.<br />So if things don't change and there is no help from radio you are right its a small niche]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927428#msg-927428</link><description><![CDATA[ MUch as I like some Southern Rock,the modern country disguised as SR gets old for me with it's 'twang' and dopey yeehaw lyrics. That said, I'm glad the genre is there and hugely popular. It's VERY melodic,sometimes heartfelt,and certainly flying the flag for quality sounding tuneage. I'll give it that and---beats hearing that rap/hiphop crap blasting down the road from the yoot at every turn. T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: Why is melodic rock not popular in America?</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927346,927427#msg-927427</link><description><![CDATA[ MMMMMMMMM....Cofffee... D'oh!! And--unfortunately,heartburn. :-(<br /><br />Good points,lads. But--I'm not exactly saying that 'melrock' would/could make some huge comeback (not that it might not,if given a chance--who knows?). All I'm saying is it is/was a force for many years and lots of people--older AND even younger,still love it. There wouldn't be any big selling nostalgia act tours if it weren't so. Melrock SHOULD have it's niche on radio just as other genres still do. There are lots of great songs/releases over the past 15-20 years that got totally ignored by the music media. And THAT is the main reason that melodic rock in general (not just Survivor/Journey clones,btw) remains a small niche. Most folks that dig music at all aren't running around like us nutballs clammoring for new tunes all the time. And they weren't back in the heyday,either. It was already THERE on the radio dial for them. The idea is-- if you hsaaven't HEARD it,how do you know whether you'd dig it or not? capishe? T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2013 06:00:26 +1100</pubDate></item>
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