http://www.vhnd.com/2013/01/17/gary-cherone-reflects/http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927196#msg-927196Thu, 20 Jun 2013 01:57:40 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927508#msg-927508 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927508#msg-927508 Scott NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 21:38:21 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927507#msg-927507 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927507#msg-927507 Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 21:31:08 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927498#msg-927498 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927498#msg-927498 Troy NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 20:28:25 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927497#msg-927497 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927497#msg-927497
Jodes97@yahoo.com]]> Jodes NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 20:24:59 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927494#msg-927494 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927494#msg-927494 Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 20:10:51 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927492#msg-927492 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927492#msg-927492 Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 20:06:27 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927490#msg-927490 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927490#msg-927490 Troy NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 19:51:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927478#msg-927478 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927478#msg-927478But then I do with the studio versions too...
Niv]]> nivjourney NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 13:06:35 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927475#msg-927475 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927475#msg-927475
Here is a video for you to watch and understand the difference.
This vocal is vitually flawless until the very ending note which starts off flawless and then goes a little flat by the end. But it's the only mistake he made and he had the balls to at least go for the high note.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qTrbDQO5qM]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 12:34:02 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927473#msg-927473 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927473#msg-927473 Troy NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 12:02:22 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927455#msg-927455 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927455#msg-927455
I want to make sure that I just read your last post correctly.

Did you just say that all 3 VH singers can sing each others material?

If I read that right, then you cannot possibly know much about vocal ranges. The VH singers go in this order of ranges:

Sammy - Highest
Gary - Below Sammy
David - Below Gary

Sammy can sing anything Dave does and Dave can't sing anything Sammy does. Gary tried to sing Sammy songs, but was nowhere near powerful enough in that high/raspy range that Hagar has. Gary has a naturally cleaner tone than Sammy so it was a real stretch for him to scream his ass off like Sammy does. He is lucky he didn't last too long in VH because it probably would have ruined his voice.


As far as MIchael Sweet in Boston goes, it just didn't work for me. As I said before, I am a Brad Delp freak and I want those songs sang as close to his original perfection as possible. MIchael was not able to do that. He's a great front man, he sang on key, he sang with feeling, he sang with power but the bottom line is that he was not born with the vocal tone that Boston's material requires. Yes those concerts were successful but that doesn't mean that he is interchangeable with Brad Delp. And that is what you are not getting.]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 09:00:32 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927424#msg-927424 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927424#msg-927424
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdPH3Cl-a2U

he did a pretty good job here with Stryper and Scholz]]> Troy NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 05:52:42 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927387#msg-927387 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927387#msg-927387 Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 00:37:42 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927385#msg-927385 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927385#msg-927385 Captain Can Man NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 00:26:52 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927384#msg-927384 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927384#msg-927384In fact, and it was always obvious really, Sweet's main gig is Stryper, and they were always going to be his priority and they are much more active than Boston both in the studio and on the road.
Niv]]> nivjourney NoticeboardSun, 20 Jan 2013 00:16:45 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927366#msg-927366 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927366#msg-927366
You ramble on about this bullshit about "mutual" and "spend time with my family" when no one said anything about any of that. You have yet to provide anything to show he wasn't capable.

Scholtz loved him...i never saw a bad review, he left on good terms...there is not a bad word you can say about him. If YOU didn't like it fine, but thousands of people think otherwise, so unless you can give me some concrete reason why Michael Sweet left boston you can take your opinions on What may have happened and lock them away because they are worth dick without facts.]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 20:32:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927361#msg-927361 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927361#msg-927361

Only a handful of people have ever gotten along with Tom Scholz for any length of time and I assume that is because they have their heads up his ass so they can be in Boston. I seriously doubt they actually like him. In Stryper, Sweet is the main man and his opinions are golden. In Boston, he had to answer to the man like everyone else does and he was given his parts like an employee.

Not to mention his voice just doesn't have the right tone for the Boston songs. Sure he did a good job by "regular fan" standards. But for me, I am a Brad Delp FREAK and as much as I would have loved for Michael to blow me away doing those parts, he just didn't...

Fran Cosmo is the closest I have heard to hitting Brad Delp's perfect vocal tone and even he is still standing in the shadow.

The Home Depot guy also sounds way closer to Brad's tone than Michael did. Michael used his vibratto too much and he made Boston songs sound like Stryper songs. If it makes you feel any better, I wouldn't want to hear Brad Delp try to pull off Stryper songs either because he just wouldn't be able to get the power behind the notes like Michael does for those songs. They are two completely different types of singers. Brad has angelic vocals and Michael has power vocals...

Michael would sound GREAT singing Dennis DeYoung songs though! They have a very similar tone! Heck, I wish he would join Styx and they could fire that no talent JY and reduce LG down to just a keyboardist so Michael could sing the Dennis songs and play JY's guitar parts better than he ever thought about playing them!!]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 18:49:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927359#msg-927359 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927359#msg-927359 kidego71 NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 18:10:49 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927353#msg-927353 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927353#msg-927353
That's Why I Love You]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 14:44:10 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927351#msg-927351 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927351#msg-927351
I like the unreleased song in that its got a good melody and Cherone stays more in his natural singing range. A problem with much of VHIII is that the vocal melodies aren't so memorable, and it always sounds like Cherone is shredding is vocal chords. He just sounded better in Extreme. I have a feeling Ed was dictating some of the melody lines, but he just didn't understand how to arrange for a singer well enough. Obviously, Sammy probably wrote his vocal melodies on his own.]]> Ross S. NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 14:31:27 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927347#msg-927347 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927347#msg-927347 Jodes NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 13:55:04 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927345#msg-927345 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927345#msg-927345 PaulBonrud NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 12:36:34 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927336#msg-927336 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927336#msg-927336
This unreleased original song was planned for inclusion on Van Halen III, but was replaced by Josephina. Since the song was on test pressings of Van Halen III at Warner Brothers, it wasn't long before it became available in the bootlegging community. This was the first unreleased studio track since the Dave-era to make it into public circulation.]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 10:22:49 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927335#msg-927335 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927335#msg-927335
I think it's one of the best songs from that era. Favorites are From Afar, Year To The Day and Without You.

From what I understand it was even on one of the VH3 promos sent out in one of the countries but all I've ever heard seems to be the demo floting around where you hear Alex in the beginning. I've heard it cleaned up a little reducing the hiss but never heard a version with full quality like the released VH3 album so my thoughts are that it was demoed with intent to be on the new album but replaced with Josephina before they did final mixes and all that.]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 10:16:43 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927334#msg-927334 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927334#msg-927334 Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 10:12:14 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927329#msg-927329 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927329#msg-927329
Paul]]> PaulBonrud NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 10:06:15 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927328#msg-927328 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927328#msg-927328If anything Sweet is a much closer fit than Victor, so why would you replace someone who you get along with and suits the style of your band for someone you don't know and doesn't have the same vocal style as Delp or Sweet in that role?
I think Sweet is going to be very busy with 2 Stryper albums, a tour and a new solo album. And as Troy said, i'm sure he contributed to the potential new album during his tenure with the band.
Niv]]> nivjourney NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 10:05:36 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927326#msg-927326 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927326#msg-927326
These are the published stories and no one has ever disputed them to my knowledge.

Guitar World:
Singer/guitarist Michael Sweet, who had been pulling double-duty in Stryper and Boston, has officially announced that he will be leaving Boston to focus solely on Stryper and his songwriting career.

Sweet made the announcement on his official website on August 10.

"My focus and my loyalty lies with Stryper, the band that I've committed almost thirty years of my life to," says Sweet. "The guys in Stryper are my brothers and I’m excited about our future together. The music of BOSTON helped shape who I am as an artist, and the opportunity to be a part of their musical legacy is overwhelming. It’s been an honor to share the stage with them, and a bigger honor to call them my friends."

According to a report from Blabbermouth.net, Sweet has further clarified his comments, making sure fans knew that Boston would continue without him.

"I feel the need to clarify that my statement released on August 10 about my decision to focus on Stryper in the near and distant future and therefore not allowing me the time to perform with Boston certainly should not imply that Boston is no more. They will continue on and all Boston fans should be encouraged and excited about the future of the band and what lies ahead. I wish them nothing but the best and as a fan myself, I'll be the first in line when they tour and the first to purchase the next Boston record!"]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 09:55:56 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927325#msg-927325 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927325#msg-927325
Here are a couple of tips to look for:

The word "mutual" Anytime you hear this word, be rest assured that it is a way for someone to save face.

"I wanted to spend time with my family" - When you hear this phrase, it is only true when there has been a recent death in the family.

Contracts, obligations, blah blah blah, can all be altered or rearranged if the parties involved really want them to be.]]> Captain Can Man NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 09:52:33 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927324#msg-927324 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,927196,927324#msg-927324
The decision wasn't made to replace him. He wasn't "replaced" he did every single show he said he would before getting back to Stryper.

He left in 2011 to get back to his commitments to Stryper. He is said to possibly have a song or two on the next Boston album (if that ever happens) along with DeCarlo, Delp, and Victor.]]> Troy NoticeboardSat, 19 Jan 2013 09:46:49 +1100