More Blurays With piracy running wild in the CD world and music being downloaded to crappy MP3 why don't bands release thier albums on Bluray where you could have the album in full 7.1 DTS MA sound, HD video clips and a HD video of the band playing the full album live in studio in HD sound as well. Quality Home theatre systems are very common now so this would bring the music back into lounge rooms and played at the highest quality.http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921472#msg-921472Mon, 20 May 2013 09:32:48 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921770#msg-921770 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921770#msg-921770not studio albums. Home Cinema systems may be quite common these days, but most people who have them use an 'All In One' system that uses satellite speakers. That's the set-up I have. Mine is a decent quality Samsung system, but the speakers can't compete with my large Hi-Fi speakers. Also, Blu-Ray Home Cinema systems are not that common yet, and 7.1 systems even less common. Most people just don't really care about having the best quality available, that's why movie streaming services like Netflix and Lovefilm are becoming more and more popular. People seem to be quite happy with streaming quality that is generally of a sub-Dvd quality. Even the full HD streams that are available, they only come with Dolby Digital 5.1 sound. I have the Slipknot {sic}nesses Blu-Ray, which is their headline performance at Download 2009. I also have the live CD of the same performance, and while the DTS HD Master Audio Blu-Ray does sound great, I still prefer the sound from the stereo Live CD through my Hi-Fi.]]> Coco NoticeboardWed, 05 Dec 2012 21:48:22 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921769#msg-921769 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921769#msg-921769
We've been here before. CD is better than vinyl.......]]> rocknut NoticeboardWed, 05 Dec 2012 21:40:17 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921768#msg-921768 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921768#msg-921768-------------------------------------------------------
> I have....and I'll take old school stereo over it.


Well now I see why the music industry is declining, no one wants quality.]]> PowerAV NoticeboardWed, 05 Dec 2012 21:14:15 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921758#msg-921758 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921758#msg-921758 rocknut NoticeboardWed, 05 Dec 2012 20:03:26 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921747#msg-921747 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921747#msg-921747-------------------------------------------------------
> Surround sound music sounds shit. I have a Blu-Ray
> Home Cinema system, but my 17yr old Technics Hi-Fi
> blows it away for sound quality while playing
> music. Good old fashioned stereo sound is still
> king.


you like most people here have obviously not heard Within Temptation Balck symphony or The Police Certifiable on Bluray or even The Eagles When Hell freezes over on DVD or any DVD Audio or SACD.]]> PowerAV NoticeboardWed, 05 Dec 2012 18:45:38 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921586#msg-921586 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921586#msg-921586 Scott Watson NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 09:28:06 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921584#msg-921584 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921584#msg-921584 Scott Watson NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 09:23:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921541#msg-921541 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921541#msg-921541 Snake65 NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 03:54:48 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921529#msg-921529 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921529#msg-921529
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gary191265
How are they getting fucked over any more than Little Johnny's Psychobilly band or his mates Funk band or any other genre/sub-genre out there ?

Speak to kids who are in bands these days and they're far less bothered about illegal downloads and record companies than their older contemporaries. Artists in the music industry only made a lot of money for a relatively short period of time (maybe 20-30 years), they were ripped off by record companies before that and the same record companies shot themselves and their artists in the foot by not adapting to survive once downloading became a big issue.

That's it, in a nutshell. Everything is different, except the record company greed mentality. Adapt or die, law of the jungle - call it what you will, but there has been a sea change and 'the suits' don't want to recognise it.]]> rocknut NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 02:59:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921525#msg-921525 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921525#msg-921525-------------------------------------------------------
> With piracy running wild in the CD world and music
> being downloaded to crappy MP3 why don't bands
> release thier albums on Bluray where you could
> have the album in full 7.1 DTS MA sound, HD video
> clips and a HD video of the band playing the full
> album live in studio in HD sound as well.
> Quality Home theatre systems are very common now
> so this would bring the music back into lounge
> rooms and played at the highest quality.

That's more or less Porcupine Tree/Steven Wilson's business model. Normal cd, normal surround mix, expensive limited edition box with the lot in. Seems to work.

He even put out a quick live album halfway through a tour to pay for the second leg of the tour, which it did, so illegal downloading didn't kill that off. Just got to be aware of what your bottom line is (and your target demographic) before the downloads start to kick in.

He must have been taking a lot of notice of Marillion when he was producing and touring with them.]]> gary191265 NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 01:38:52 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921523#msg-921523 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921523#msg-921523 gary191265 NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 01:24:39 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921522#msg-921522 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921522#msg-921522-------------------------------------------------------
> I'm talking about OUR bands - both label signed
> and indie - getting totally fucked over.
> Folks need to realize the new release/advance
> release blog piracy issue is killing projects and
> labels right here right now.


How are they getting fucked over any more than Little Johnny's Psychobilly band or his mates Funk band or any other genre/sub-genre out there ?

Speak to kids who are in bands these days and they're far less bothered about illegal downloads and record companies than their older contemporaries. Artists in the music industry only made a lot of money for a relatively short period of time (maybe 20-30 years), they were ripped off by record companies before that and the same record companies shot themselves and their artists in the foot by not adapting to survive once downloading became a big issue.]]> gary191265 NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 01:24:39 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921520#msg-921520 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921520#msg-921520still want to own their favourite music on a physical format. They may download a pre-release mp3 leak out of curiosity, but they will still buy the official CD when it's released. There are just too few fans left to give even the best of releases a significant amount of sales. Every genre and sub genre of music is saturated to the max, and that is a much bigger problem than illegal downloading, especially with the world economy being fucked and the consumer having a lot less disposable income.]]> Coco NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 00:30:38 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921515#msg-921515 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921515#msg-921515Folks need to realize the new release/advance release blog piracy issue is killing projects and labels right here right now.]]> Andrew NoticeboardTue, 04 Dec 2012 00:05:56 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921502#msg-921502 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921502#msg-921502 Doug Wolfgang NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 23:23:21 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921499#msg-921499 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921499#msg-921499-------------------------------------------------------
> Surround sound music sounds shit. I have a Blu-Ray
> Home Cinema system, but my 17yr old Technics Hi-Fi
> blows it away for sound quality while playing
> music. Good old fashioned stereo sound is still
> king.

Depends who's doing the surround mix...yet to hear a bad one of Steven Wilson's. They do sound awful if they're not done properly though, with little thought going into instrument placement and levels.

As for the download war being lost, the record companies should have thought about that a LONG time ago, instead of burying their heads in the sand or going down the litigation route with their antiquated business model.]]> gary191265 NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 23:11:32 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921496#msg-921496 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921496#msg-921496
Chris]]> robaich NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 22:42:14 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921488#msg-921488 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921488#msg-921488 Coco NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 21:38:16 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921480#msg-921480 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921480#msg-921480
Chris]]> robaich NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 21:02:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921476#msg-921476 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921476#msg-921476 PowerAV NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 20:48:05 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921474#msg-921474 Re: More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921474#msg-921474Huge mix cost and audio can still be ripped to MP3.

The anti-download war is lost. A new business model must evolve, but at what cost??]]> Andrew NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 20:31:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921472#msg-921472 More Blurayshttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,921472,921472#msg-921472Quality Home theatre systems are very common now so this would bring the music back into lounge rooms and played at the highest quality.]]> PowerAV NoticeboardMon, 03 Dec 2012 20:13:56 +1100