I thought this was a genuinely great comeback album, and I honestly think there are 3 hit singles on that album - just don't understand why the bands label/management didn't promote them properley....http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918646#msg-918646Fri, 24 May 2013 04:18:52 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918781#msg-918781 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918781#msg-918781
'Back in the day' they seemed to be on every support slot available. Every gig I saw them play I was bored within 2 songs...and so were the majority of other punters.

Never got why people raved about them...dull as dishwater

Andy]]> AndyC NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 23:22:44 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918727#msg-918727 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918727#msg-918727 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 09:56:20 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918725#msg-918725 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918725#msg-918725 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 09:53:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918723#msg-918723 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918723#msg-918723There's nothing left at the end of it. The niche bands that we all love on here will be lucky to sell 1000-2000 copies of album in a lot of cases.
Sad but true.]]> Jim Kirkpatrick NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 09:36:00 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918710#msg-918710 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918710#msg-918710-------------------------------------------------------
> Never heard even one song by them. Thry're unknown
> here in The States. Checked samples over at Amazon
> for Rapture. Sounds alot like solo Patty Smyth
> style stuff to me. It's decent enough-not 'great'
> or anything tho. Not sure more promo would help
> them much. Couldn't hurt,either...T

Check out the first album...much better ! Still sold squat despite one of the songs featuring in 'A Nightmare on Elm Street 5'

Romeo's Daughter...]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 07:36:49 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918707#msg-918707 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918707#msg-918707 Terry K. NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 07:29:04 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918693#msg-918693 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918693#msg-918693
The RD set was pretty much 50/50 split between the debut and Rapture, with only 'Animal' from the second? cd. Very enjoyable live.

On a side note, chatted with Pete Fry once regarding cd sales and he mentioned that as weel received as 'High Gear' was it only sold about 4K copies.

Cheers

Mark H]]> SecurityMark NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 05:01:35 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918689#msg-918689 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918689#msg-918689 wookie NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 04:03:05 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918682#msg-918682 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918682#msg-918682 Coco NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 02:11:50 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918681#msg-918681 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918681#msg-918681
1/4 page B&W in Classic Rock Mag = £850+
At £3 cost price per album, that's 283 sales just to cover that single advert sales to. Cds sell wholesale between £4.00-5.50, so do the maths on the margins. That's only one promo outlet.]]> Chazz NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 02:06:22 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918680#msg-918680 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918680#msg-918680 gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 02:01:22 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918679#msg-918679 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918679#msg-918679 RAB NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:57:53 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918678#msg-918678 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918678#msg-918678 Coco NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:57:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918675#msg-918675 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918675#msg-918675 rocknut NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:49:42 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918672#msg-918672 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918672#msg-918672-------------------------------------------------------
> Coco Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I thought it was terminally boring. The debut
> is
> > one of my all-time favourites, but that new
> album
> > just didn't have great songs. No amount of
> money
> > thrown at that album could make it a hit.
>
> Hes Mine, Trippin out, Keep Walking, great
> anthemic stuff. There are one troo many slow songs
> on it though, I will give you that...the balance
> aint right.

There you go, probably answered your own question...it was promoted as well as any other modern-day MR album but failed to appeal to the populace at large !]]> gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:42:35 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918670#msg-918670 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918670#msg-918670-------------------------------------------------------
> I thought it was terminally boring. The debut is
> one of my all-time favourites, but that new album
> just didn't have great songs. No amount of money
> thrown at that album could make it a hit.

Hes Mine, Trippin out, Keep Walking, great anthemic stuff. There are one troo many slow songs on it though, I will give you that...the balance aint right.]]> rickyboy999 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:27:52 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918668#msg-918668 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918668#msg-918668-------------------------------------------------------
> A good songwriting team will always produce an
> enjoyable album. I think that if they adjusted
> their sights and possibly went down the Shania
> Twain/Keith Urban country/pop rock route they
> could do better business.
>
> In the melrock field I wouldn't think anything
> above 25-30 thousand units is acheiveable. At
> best.


In their dreams. These days, I'm pretty sure that a really big selling Aor/Melodic Rock album is somewhere around 5 to 10000.]]> Coco NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:22:25 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918665#msg-918665 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918665#msg-918665 Coco NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:16:44 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918664#msg-918664 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918664#msg-918664 Laurent NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:16:01 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918663#msg-918663 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918663#msg-918663 Coco NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:15:19 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918662#msg-918662 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918662#msg-918662
I don't know how to answer that question. There are too many variables....and too many other bands that have had those resources yet still not made it.]]> rocknut NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:10:03 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918658#msg-918658 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918658#msg-918658-------------------------------------------------------
> A good songwriting team will always produce an
> enjoyable album. I think that if they adjusted
> their sights and possibly went down the Shania
> Twain/Keith Urban country/pop rock route they
> could do better business.
>
> In the melrock field I wouldn't think anything
> above 25-30 thousand units is acheiveable. At
> best.

Just a quick question - I know it would never happen, but if they got a major label behind them, unlimited airplay, 3 big budgets videos how many copies do you think they would sell then?]]> rickyboy999 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 01:04:27 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918657#msg-918657 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918657#msg-918657
In the melrock field I wouldn't think anything above 25-30 thousand units is acheiveable. At best.]]> rocknut NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:45:47 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918656#msg-918656 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918656#msg-918656 rickyboy999 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:36:58 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918654#msg-918654 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918654#msg-918654 gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:35:05 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918653#msg-918653 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918653#msg-918653Beyond that I'm not sure what you were expecting? A mainstream media blitz just isn't going to happen in this day and age.]]> rocknut NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:33:28 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918651#msg-918651 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918651#msg-918651-------------------------------------------------------
> How didn't they promote it properly? What is your
> reasoning for stating that?


Well I thought it be on an EPK on the front page of this site like POL or Eclipse, just think this album had real potential....]]> rickyboy999 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:30:50 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918648#msg-918648 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918648#msg-918648 gary191265 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:25:13 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918647#msg-918647 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918647#msg-918647 rocknut NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:20:33 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918646#msg-918646 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918646,918646#msg-918646 rickyboy999 NoticeboardThu, 08 Nov 2012 00:01:33 +1100