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<description> Well, I was soooo looking forward to this, Ive heard that they have a reputation for being a great band live....and the added bonus that Floor was now in the band made me look forward to it even more.....anyway, I thought their would be a bigger intro/build up and some pyro (there wasn't any - did they have pyro on prev UK tours?) - anyway Floor sounded great, has a very graceful stage manner, musically the band were tight, sounded as good as ever, however, the set list was a major problem - too many slow songs, and I was dissapointed by them playing that jazz track - I thought something like &amp;quot;Whoever brings the night&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Master Passion Greed&amp;quot; would of been a better choice, especially as they only played 1 track from DPP. I did expect a bit more intensity/energy from the band (poor set list didn't help), but the crowd seemed to love it, although initially there wasn't much energy or enthusiasm from the crowd at the front of the stage near the band.
Im guessing things are well in the Nightwish camp as the bands sense of humour did come through, it's just that they were more laid back than I expected, I just did not get the feeling of euphoria/buzz afterwards that I did when I saw Within Temptation last year. I thought the light show was average and I was expecting a ton of pyro.

On the plus side, Floor is on a different planet to Anette, she sounded amazing, and when she hit the high notes during &amp;quot;Ghost love score&amp;quot; the crowd screamed in appreciation, certainly was a magical moment.....but overall I'm slightly dissapointed, things just seemed to me to be subdued.....weird....</description><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918630#msg-918630</link><lastBuildDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:55:16 +1000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918981#msg-918981</link><description><![CDATA[ I was at Birmingham and loved the set and the sound.<br /><br />Have to agree about Floor nailing Ghost Love Score-a definite highlight as it is one of fave Nightwish songs.<br /><br />My only niggle was the acoustic Nemo which wasn't great.<br /><br />The other surprise was Pain who I had never heard but enjoyed-a great groove with some Sisters of mercy touches. Wuill be checking them out on CD.<br /><br />I hope Floor stays as I was never a Annette fan in Nightwish]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918709#msg-918709</link><description><![CDATA[ aorneil Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; They played 3 songs from DPP surely? Amaranth,<br />&gt; Last of the Wilds and Islander. Pretty much the<br />&gt; same set as manchester..<br /><br />My bad, sorry just think the choice was wrong]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918702#msg-918702</link><description><![CDATA[ They played 3 songs from DPP surely? Amaranth, Last of the Wilds and Islander. Pretty much the same set as manchester..]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918685#msg-918685</link><description><![CDATA[ There is more of a balance to their music. The Tarja era was lost on many people due to the intensity of the shows. Maybe they are losing some older fans because of the changes they have made. In my opinion I prefer more variety in the set list.]]></description>
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<title>Re: O/T...pyro !</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918677#msg-918677</link><description><![CDATA[ rocknut Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; ...or a Grade A muppet.<br /><br />I would call you a cunt but I'm not allowed, apparently ;)<br /><br />I'll just think you're one, instead ! (© Some footballer and a referee years ago...Rodney Marsh claimed it but I doubt he was clever enough !)]]></description>
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<title>Re: O/T...pyro !</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918673#msg-918673</link><description><![CDATA[ You take a smoke machine into a studio? Now there's a man dedicated to creating a suitable mood.]]></description>
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<title>Re: O/T...pyro !</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918671#msg-918671</link><description><![CDATA[ [insert inappropriate Great White comment here]<br /><br />Inappropriate maybe but probably the reason that smaller venues can't get licences for pyro these days. Fog machines will set off fire alarms, as I've found to my cost in a couple of studios !!]]></description>
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<title>O/T...pyro !</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918666#msg-918666</link><description><![CDATA[ totobob Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; I think you are spot on Gary. I saw them at<br />&gt; Brixton 3 years ago and they had a license for<br />&gt; that gig, but dont think any of the UK venues had<br />&gt; one this time. The US shows were also stripped<br />&gt; back with no pyro. To be honest, although the pyro<br />&gt; show is excellent, it can detract from how the<br />&gt; band are playing.<br />&gt; Ive been reading their forums and some fans are<br />&gt; actually dissapointed with the direction the band<br />&gt; are taking. I feel that the new slightly less<br />&gt; metalic approach will gain them greater appeal<br />&gt; however and I welcome the less frenetic approach.<br /><br />Way off topic but I once did the pyro for a mates band at the old JB's (the really old one) and they band ended up playing the first song with ceiling tiles hanging off them...hadn't quite got the hang of how much flash powder to use !! :)]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918661#msg-918661</link><description><![CDATA[ totobob Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; I think you are spot on Gary. I saw them at<br />&gt; Brixton 3 years ago and they had a license for<br />&gt; that gig, but dont think any of the UK venues had<br />&gt; one this time. The US shows were also stripped<br />&gt; back with no pyro. To be honest, although the pyro<br />&gt; show is excellent, it can detract from how the<br />&gt; band are playing.<br />&gt; Ive been reading their forums and some fans are<br />&gt; actually dissapointed with the direction the band<br />&gt; are taking. <b>I feel that the new slightly less<br />&gt; metalic approach will gain them greater appeal<br />&gt; however and I welcome the less frenetic approach.</b><br /><br />Whys that?]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918659#msg-918659</link><description><![CDATA[ I think you are spot on Gary. I saw them at Brixton 3 years ago and they had a license for that gig, but dont think any of the UK venues had one this time. The US shows were also stripped back with no pyro. To be honest, although the pyro show is excellent, it can detract from how the band are playing.<br />Ive been reading their forums and some fans are actually dissapointed with the direction the band are taking. I feel that the new slightly less metalic approach will gain them greater appeal however and I welcome the less frenetic approach.]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918652#msg-918652</link><description><![CDATA[ rocknut Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; &gt; I did expect a bit more intensity/energy from<br />&gt; the band (poor set list didn't help), but the<br />&gt; crowd seemed to love it....<br />&gt;<br />&gt;<br />&gt; Maybe it was just you, then?<br /><br />Don't get me wrong I enjoyed it...just expected more...there is a actually a post on this board of someone else who was a bit dissapointed too.]]></description>
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<title>Re: Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918649#msg-918649</link><description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="bbcode"><div><small>Quote<br/></small><strong>rickyboy999</strong><br/>
I did expect a bit more intensity/energy from the band (poor set list didn't help), but the crowd seemed to love it....</div></blockquote><br />Maybe it was just you, then?]]></description>
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<title>Nightwish last night in Birmingham - my thoughts</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,918630,918630#msg-918630</link><description><![CDATA[ Well, I was soooo looking forward to this, Ive heard that they have a reputation for being a great band live....and the added bonus that Floor was now in the band made me look forward to it even more.....anyway, I thought their would be a bigger intro/build up and some pyro (there wasn't any - did they have pyro on prev UK tours?) - anyway Floor sounded great, has a very graceful stage manner, musically the band were tight, sounded as good as ever, however, the set list was a major problem - too many slow songs, and I was dissapointed by them playing that jazz track - I thought something like &quot;Whoever brings the night&quot; or &quot;Master Passion Greed&quot; would of been a better choice, especially as they only played 1 track from DPP. I did expect a bit more intensity/energy from the band (poor set list didn't help), but the crowd seemed to love it, although initially there wasn't much energy or enthusiasm from the crowd at the front of the stage near the band.<br />Im guessing things are well in the Nightwish camp as the bands sense of humour did come through, it's just that they were more laid back than I expected, I just did not get the feeling of euphoria/buzz afterwards that I did when I saw Within Temptation last year. I thought the light show was average and I was expecting a ton of pyro.<br /><br />On the plus side, Floor is on a different planet to Anette, she sounded amazing, and when she hit the high notes during &quot;Ghost love score&quot; the crowd screamed in appreciation, certainly was a magical moment.....but overall I'm slightly dissapointed, things just seemed to me to be subdued.....weird....]]></description>
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