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<description> No details yet that i can find but these two new logo's have appeared on the Hard Rock Hell website's forum.....

Be interesting to see how this shapes up, fingers crossed details will appear soon!

Location wise i would guess at a similar if not the same location of the other HRH events and conventions.....lets just pray it ain't London! hahaha...

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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899653#msg-899653</link><description><![CDATA[ Not specifically too expesive for FF, but FF tend to put bands on that can't tour the UK and ofcourse if they are big enough to tour we don't need FF to put them on so people can see them....<br /><br />Foreigner for example even if they offered to play for free probably wouldn't be considered as they can and do tour the UK.<br /><br />I'm confident them team behind this can pull something really good together that will appeal to fans....<br /><br />surely if say Foreigner played thats means atleast 2K plus would turn up! as they normally play Wolvo Civic which has a 3k capacity so that estimate is down playing there pull....<br /><br />and if they have multiple stages EVEN little bands can play, but the big bands bring in the fairweather fans to join the AOR anoraks rocking infornt of the little stage!<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899649#msg-899649</link><description><![CDATA[ Looking forward to this if it comes off, I would imagine the 2 or 3 headline bands might be a size that would prove too expensive for Firefest?<br />Whereas FF have a fantastic record of picking the right bands for that client base they obviously have to work within their budgets. If HRH pulled out someone like Foreigner or Styx as a headline band it would open the event to a wider audience.<br />Fingers crossed we get another event for the type of music we like.]]></description>
<dc:creator>ATP</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899638#msg-899638</link><description><![CDATA[ i know people on here who dont go to gigs in there home towns, of bands they allegedly are big fans off, so youv got no chance of them travelling to gigs or festys, especially when they kn watch some shite u tube recording of the event.]]></description>
<dc:creator>bazza13</dc:creator>
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<title>HRH AOR logo!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899596#msg-899596</link><description><![CDATA[ <img src="http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr259/thunder781/HRHAOR.jpg" class="bbcode" border="0" /><br /><br />me excited pahhh.....ok i am but shhhh.....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899565#msg-899565</link><description><![CDATA[ yeah, that is true good points Julian...i hadn't thought of it that way.....so if i don't lose the plot on the train over it would be far more convienant in many ways and ofcourse cheaper than hotels....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899564#msg-899564</link><description><![CDATA[ The holiday camp type festival does have lots of plus points though,all in price which is usually pretty reasonable,no worries about finding hotels,parking,cheap food etc,good atmosphere,close enough to pop back to the room for a refreshment between bands.Even if the travel there is initially a bit of a trek you can switch off for the weekend and just enjoy the music.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899554#msg-899554</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah it has to be next year James....No idea on funds, looking at alot of the bands the get for HRH i don't think their will be lots of exclusive's i think you might have some mid-range bands incorporate the festival within an established tour. I'd presume this would cut costs as they ain't having to fly the bands in ect....<br /><br />I'd take a guess at Y&amp;T as they tour regularly in the autumn every year....<br /><br />the Haven park idea does reduce hotel costs for those who need overnight accomadation....but like you James i'd rather not! hahaha...Not out of snobbery but living in the midlands means i've got a hell of a journey to reach these places! Wolvo to Pwhelli is almost 5 hours by train! I can get to Belfast in 40 minutes!<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899550#msg-899550</link><description><![CDATA[ Good evening all.<br /><br />I am sure I am not alone on this, but i really do hate travelling to see gigs. Unfortunately for major artists it is usually Birmingham for me unless Cardiff gets something decent. However I have noticed that some artists are starting to skip there as well. I am quite envious of the fans who live in the midlands when it comes to choice of gigs that is! I live close to the coast and would hate to live anywhere else!<br /><br />Anyway, I am sure there are plenty of you guys travelling a lot further than me to see a gig. Off to to London tomorrow to see Kiss with a couple of mates.<br /><br />North Wales-hell of a trek but some beautiful scenery.]]></description>
<dc:creator>IanF</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899549#msg-899549</link><description><![CDATA[ Surely we must be looking at 2013 for this.<br /><br />Hope it doesn't effect Firefest next year. From what Woody seems to know the HRH team appear to have some financial clout if they are aiming at Magnum / Cinderella size bands.<br /><br />Absolutely no interest in going to a Butlins though.<br /><br />Would have to go some to even get close to the joy that Firefest brings - my Sunday ticket arrived this morning, thanks guys.]]></description>
<dc:creator>jamesrock</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899538#msg-899538</link><description><![CDATA[ Exactly thats why location is very important, it doesn't have to be a big city but does have to have easy enough transport links to cater easily for an international market. An event aimed at only the UK market is gonna REALLY struggle...<br /><br />If this happens at Pwhelli, i can see it dying on it's arse in fact i don't think a seaside location is a smart idea full stop. The HRH team have loads going on so aren't new to organising something like this, but hopefully they are wise enough to consider factors that are important to attracting fans for a AOR genre specific event....also i hope they go for a summer or late spring date.<br /><br />the bands is only half the battle....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899535#msg-899535</link><description><![CDATA[ For the record over 50% of Firefest attendees come from outside the UK...even Classic Rock Presents AOR folded after 6 issues....the fan base to do something on a completely commercial level isn't there anymore....if FF was strictly a business venture instead of a for the fans by the fans show we would have been out of 'buisness' a LONG time ago....however there is always room for more shows .....would be nice just to show up to an AOR festival instead of worrying about one for a change....K]]></description>
<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899534#msg-899534</link><description><![CDATA[ Interesting times .........]]></description>
<dc:creator>Kieran</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899526#msg-899526</link><description><![CDATA[ If it doesn't hurt Firefest then it must be good,also if the metal and hard rock crowds travel to North Wales I don't see a problem with the AOR one doing the same especially as there would probably be a certain cross section anyway.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Julian H</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899518#msg-899518</link><description><![CDATA[ it shall be very interesting to hear more details about this....but totally agree it's gonna be totally against all odds to be a success..<br /><br />I hope it turns into something good, but i do hope the organisers are aware of how few of us there is and not balance success on the 'unique' success of another similar themed event....<br /><br />fingers crossed....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899516#msg-899516</link><description><![CDATA[ I would imagine they would go for the bands that fall outside of the Firefest catchment area.........i.e. bands that (in their own minds at least) are &quot;too big&quot; for Firefest and do &quot;reasonable&quot; business on their own tours.....the Europes, Cinderellas, Magnums of this world for example..... Thing is could they get enough of them to call it a festival. If as someone mentioned earlier, they are increasing the capacity and number of stages at HRH, it would make more sense to just increase the number of bands / styles and throw them all on at the same event. That would surely be more cost effective / less risky than staging seperate events and I think more people would be likely to go if there was one big line up covering a wide range of musical styles.<br /><br />Gav]]></description>
<dc:creator>Gav1</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899514#msg-899514</link><description><![CDATA[ I hope they are not thinking &quot;well Firefest gets 1400 sold out so thats the number of fans we can drag in in the UK&quot;. We know just how many of those fans travel from overseas, and the majority do that because its Firefest. The name, the brand, the unique atmosphere.....a new festival won't get that.]]></description>
<dc:creator>David (Oxford)</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899511#msg-899511</link><description><![CDATA[ Always fancied going to HRH...can't see what calibre of bands they'd get for a purely AOR or Prog festival though ? Can't imagine it would be Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree and Opeth ! And as for the AOR one, I think Firefest have that one pretty much boxed off.]]></description>
<dc:creator>gary191265</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899493#msg-899493</link><description><![CDATA[ Well I would have to say you are probably right in that &quot;the melodic rock crowd ain't gonna travel to western wales&quot; - hope you are wrong though (or that it is going to be somewhere else).]]></description>
<dc:creator>Tony Bainbridge</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899486#msg-899486</link><description><![CDATA[ No Tony, they are definitley seperate events.....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899485#msg-899485</link><description><![CDATA[ It would be nice to have more melodic rock events and gigs, but with a limited core fanbase making it a success is almost impossible...<br /><br />Let's see how it unfolds....lets not kill it before it's taken it's first breath.....It could be a big bag of shite or it could be another fantastic festival to enjoy!<br /><br />I agree Bazza, the melodic rock crowd ain't gonna travel to western wales regardless of who's playing...<br /><br />I think location and bands are of parmount importance to it been a success....<br /><br />So Vega and my back garden......sounds good to me, cheap booze too....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899484#msg-899484</link><description><![CDATA[ Maybe it will be AOR &amp; Prog stages at the normal HRH weekend?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Tony Bainbridge</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899483#msg-899483</link><description><![CDATA[ half of them wouldnt travel to the end of there street]]></description>
<dc:creator>bazza13</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899479#msg-899479</link><description><![CDATA[ Will be interesting to see how they could make this work. Haven't we seen time and time again that there is only really room for one AOR type festival in the UK? Firefest holds the monopoly for that surely.<br /><br />Gav]]></description>
<dc:creator>Gav1</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899477#msg-899477</link><description><![CDATA[ 3 Thousand or so i think, it's set to increase this year with more accomadation and larger venue's....they have three stages....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899476#msg-899476</link><description><![CDATA[ what is the attendance like at the regular HRH weekend?<br /><br />Gav]]></description>
<dc:creator>Gav1</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899474#msg-899474</link><description><![CDATA[ Yes totally agree, i do fear a seaside location will kill it before it even starts.<br /><br />A lot depends on if they want to offer accomadation. If they do, i'd presume it'll be haven/pontins/butlins seaside place.<br /><br />If they don't offer accomadation, then i think a location with good international transport links would be beneficial as it will atract peep's from abroad....<br /><br />can't imagine many flying to Brum to spend 5 hours with me on a train to western wales!<br /><br />Brum or Manchester would be wise places i feel.....although ideally located i think I'd have a mental breakdown if it was Rock City......i ay joking.....<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899473#msg-899473</link><description><![CDATA[ .......lets just pray it isn't the same location as other HRH events (the AOR crowd is &quot;fairly select&quot; in the UK - the number that would travel to the back end of nowhere is even less) ;-)]]></description>
<dc:creator>David (Oxford)</dc:creator>
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<title>HRH AOR &amp; HRH Prog Festivals</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,899472,899472#msg-899472</link><description><![CDATA[ No details yet that i can find but these two new logo's have appeared on the Hard Rock Hell website's forum.....<br /><br />Be interesting to see how this shapes up, fingers crossed details will appear soon!<br /><br />Location wise i would guess at a similar if not the same location of the other HRH events and conventions.....lets just pray it ain't London! hahaha...<br /><br />Woody]]></description>
<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
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