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<description> Once again, the real fans get screwed: There is going to be a re-release of the Rival Sons album with two bonus tracks, DVD content, etc. What a bunch of crap! I bought the album a couple of months ago from Amazon and now if I want the extra material, what? will I spend even more that what I bought it for to begin with? Same happened with Lacuna Coil and many others do the same!! I am downloading for free whatever extra content is needed. I am tired of this crap where the real fans, the ones that still buy CDs, and tons of them in my case, get screwed time after time! It is bullshit that the money from digital or copies go to the artists, it is always the f'cking business suits that keep the money! If I have to download shit from the Internet, I'll do it for free! Why pay for a virtual thing, especially when I already pay for the actual physical product? For what, so these assholes continue to see how to pick the fans' pockets at the expense of the musicians?</description><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878800#msg-878800</link><lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:08:13 +1000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,879043#msg-879043</link><description><![CDATA[ Got that. But two tracks were left OFF of the cd. So I was thinking it's those two added on (Company Man &amp; another one). I could be wrong,tho. Thing is--the darn running length is only 31 minutes. Like they didn't have room??! T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:18:22 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,879028#msg-879028</link><description><![CDATA[ from what i understand from the original post, its the original cd with 2 new tracks stuck on the end]]></description>
<dc:creator>seventhsea</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 07:55:18 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,879008#msg-879008</link><description><![CDATA[ OK-it's illegal,I guess (I don't use it). But the tunes ARe available from i-tunes. Have been right along. Why re-issue the thing now when the tracks have been available to download since it's release? Or are they releasing a proper cd format with them on it? Or--are these two entirely diff tracks? T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 06:37:36 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878975#msg-878975</link><description><![CDATA[ Couple of more examples (not MR but still...)<br /><br />Katherine Jenkins - Believe<br /><br />UK Standard Edition - 12 Tracks<br />UK Deluxe Edition - 15 Tracks (Plus 1 extra if you buy off itunes)<br />UK Platinum Edition - 18 Tracks + Bonus DVD (Plus 6 Live Tracks extra if you buy off itunes)<br /><br />3 Releases of 1 album in one country????? (and I seem to remember the record company sending an email out offering a box set too when it was originally released)<br /><br /><br />The Band Perry - S/T<br />Released in UK with 2 extra tracks<br />I go to buy these off itunes as I already have the cd and guess what? You can't - they are marked &quot;album only&quot; so to get the 2 tracks will cost me £8!<br /><br />Its getting to the point now I don't see the point in buying an album when it comes out, I will manage with spotify for a few months whilst I wait to see if a 'deluxe' edition is released.<br /><br />Steve]]></description>
<dc:creator>seventhsea</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 23:40:34 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878974#msg-878974</link><description><![CDATA[ Just make the bonus tracks available to purchase in lossless and I'd have no problem with it. This was done with Steve Walsh's Shadowman re-release. I'd like to have Asia's Drop a Stone, but I'm not paying $40 for one song.]]></description>
<dc:creator>drowningdeep</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878965#msg-878965</link><description><![CDATA[ Terry K. Wrote:<br />-------------------------------------------------------<br />&gt; Yeah,but...can't you get bonus tracks off<br />&gt; youtube,Mick? There's a program for getting them,I<br />&gt; believe..You've at least heard those two<br />&gt; tracks,right? T<br /><br />and therefore you are resorting to illegal downloading!<br /><br />The region restrictions are outdated, especially when I can't buy a download of an album as its US only, yet I can go to Amazon US and order the cd to be shipped to the UK.<br /><br />Steve]]></description>
<dc:creator>seventhsea</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 22:35:28 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878945#msg-878945</link><description><![CDATA[ Yeah,but...can't you get bonus tracks off youtube,Mick? There's a program for getting them,I believe..You've at least heard those two tracks,right? T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878933#msg-878933</link><description><![CDATA[ Hey Terry, that there though is another point of contention in that iTunes and most other digital stores are restricted to regions. What may be available such as the bonus tracks you mentioned above, say in the US are not available to the UK and so forth, making it nearly impossible to acquire... Never Walk Alone from Masterplan's TimeToBeKing a perfect example... I know you were focusing on PressureAndTime all good my man, but for the sake of this thread thought it worth throwing out there too that the frustration can go beyond just CD hard copies ;)<br /><br />Never understood the iTunes region restrictions to be honest, that's where a lot of this re-release bother and crap should've been sorted IMO!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wardy</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 11:58:43 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878913#msg-878913</link><description><![CDATA[ ...in the meantime---hope everyone has checked into Rival Sons. Damn fine rock band! :-) T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:16:02 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878912#msg-878912</link><description><![CDATA[ There you go! T]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:13:24 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878911#msg-878911</link><description><![CDATA[ I'm assuming you're talking about the 'Pressure and Time' cd? Well..there have been two 'bonus tracks' up on youtube for as long as the cd's been available. I think they've been available on i-tunes only? Are these the two tracks you're referring to? One is called 'Company Man' and the other I forget the title,but it was a bit less 'produced' as the remainder. Great,great cd tho and--perhaps just download the bonus tracks from i-tunes (or youtube)? T<br /><br />PS: Their ep and ist full cd (Before The Fire are only available as downloads- so far. But worth having too! now HERE&quot;S a band I'll pay good money to see live!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Terry K.</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 07:12:06 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878892#msg-878892</link><description><![CDATA[ It is the labels we are pissed at. Not the artists.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 04:39:33 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878882#msg-878882</link><description><![CDATA[ Agree with Jeff that it may be the labels then I think this is something that should go into the deal. Sadly people tend to blame the artists as its the first thing you see with a reissue.<br /><br />But whoevers fault if I see another STYX live album or redo I will scream!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:32:27 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878881#msg-878881</link><description><![CDATA[ In this day and age the only re releases should be things out of print or in need of a remaster...then I can see adding bonus stuff. But albums but out recently to do this is wrong. Agree with Andrews point.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Snake65</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:30:09 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878880#msg-878880</link><description><![CDATA[ Scott, no probs but the point of this particular upset is the fact a second edition of an album offerring bonus material is being released only within a couple months of the standard edition being released and that ain't cool! Sure a year or two later (maybe) or better still further down the track, but a month or two later!?<br /><br />Ozzy Osbourne's SREAM was a prime example... A second Australian version was offerred with bonus disc or whatnot! Why I ask, should that be limited to just Australia, let alone be released only a few months after the standard edition hit the stands?<br /><br />Same deal with Slash's last release. Few months later there was the version being offerred with bonus tracks!?<br /><br />It pisses us off!!!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Wardy</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:02:34 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878848#msg-878848</link><description><![CDATA[ Here, here for this thread. Couldn't agree more. This is why I download the bonu. Well said everyone.]]></description>
<dc:creator>InToronto</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:28:36 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878820#msg-878820</link><description><![CDATA[ Here's my take. If i bought the cd when it was first released, and it brought enjoyment into my life, I'm good with that. Now every once in a while the bonus thing will be something i must have. In that case, i'll sell my first purchase and buy the bonus content as long as the original contect is part of the package.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Scott Watson</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:11:28 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878816#msg-878816</link><description><![CDATA[ It's rarely EVER the artists doing, we sign Masters deals and the labels own the Masters giving them the rights to do as they will when they will...blame us artists when we release the albums on our own vanity labels and gouge the fans with bonus stuff but the rarity there is we dont own the labels....or these decisions!]]></description>
<dc:creator>JSS</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 21:01:54 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878804#msg-878804</link><description><![CDATA[ Couldn't agree more with this thread.]]></description>
<dc:creator>JIMMY AGATES</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 18:49:33 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878802#msg-878802</link><description><![CDATA[ no shit!!! Give us a choice to begin with like Van Halen did. You can get the album if you want it, or a deluxe version if you want that. This re-releasing is bullshit unless it's years later for some anniversary thing.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:58:38 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>Re: And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878801#msg-878801</link><description><![CDATA[ Bonus material up front for those that really care and support the artists...or none at all!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:48:41 +1100</pubDate></item>
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<title>And then lables don't want illegal downloading...BULLSHIT!!!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,878800,878800#msg-878800</link><description><![CDATA[ Once again, the real fans get screwed: There is going to be a re-release of the Rival Sons album with two bonus tracks, DVD content, etc. What a bunch of crap! I bought the album a couple of months ago from Amazon and now if I want the extra material, what? will I spend even more that what I bought it for to begin with? Same happened with Lacuna Coil and many others do the same!! I am downloading for free whatever extra content is needed. I am tired of this crap where the real fans, the ones that still buy CDs, and tons of them in my case, get screwed time after time! It is bullshit that the money from digital or copies go to the artists, it is always the f'cking business suits that keep the money! If I have to download shit from the Internet, I'll do it for free! Why pay for a virtual thing, especially when I already pay for the actual physical product? For what, so these assholes continue to see how to pick the fans' pockets at the expense of the musicians?]]></description>
<dc:creator>Melodicmax</dc:creator>
<category>Noticeboard</category><pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:42:53 +1100</pubDate></item>
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