Who were the most disapointing live act you really expected great things from ? I really was into Iron Maiden big time and was really pleased to get tickets for their Liverpool gig on the Somewhere In Time tour. I looked forward to it for months and a friend who had seen them live built up my expectations only for them to be shattered by the band themselves. The problems: Crap choice of set list, very poor sound and a jaded performance left me being totally pissed off, so much so I sold all my albums and have never bought anything by them since. Anyone else been pissed off ? folhttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4718#msg-4718Wed, 22 May 2013 13:54:27 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4969#msg-4969 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4969#msg-4969
Actually, I like Jamison better but Bickler was pretty good.

]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardMon, 28 Aug 2000 05:03:57 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4952#msg-4952 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4952#msg-4952
Kevin]]> Kevin NoticeboardSun, 27 Aug 2000 06:51:44 +1100 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4945#msg-4945 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4945#msg-4945 Kilzer NoticeboardSun, 27 Aug 2000 01:41:41 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4940#msg-4940 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4940#msg-4940]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 22:51:06 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4937#msg-4937 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4937#msg-4937 Kilzer NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 13:11:40 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4934#msg-4934 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4934#msg-4934
You said: "As I said before, you only like these bands when the going is good"

OF FUCKING COURSE! Why would I like the music if it was bad?!? Their album they did for MTM was horrible. Just because I like the band doesnt mean I have to like everything they do!

As for your fairweather fan comments...it's attitudes like this that is killing AOR as a genre. This whole 'I have to like it because it's AOR, no matter how good or bad' attitude does nothing to further good music in the genre.

Loverboy SUCKED THAT NIGHT!!! They were far from busting their butts. Their show blew chunks...what am I asking for is my money's worth. I dont think that's too much to ask for to put a little bit into your show. It dont matter even that Reno sounded crappy...the whole band looked like they were bored and just wanted to get out of there and to the local Burger King to stuff their faces. People were starting to boo and laugh towards the end of their set. Rick Springfield followed and just shit all over them. Heres someone pushing 52 and still puts on an amazing show.

Of course I'm not just happy seeing a band I grew up with. Shit, I've seen them in the 80s and they were good then. But I'm not so blind (or deaf) of a fan that I cant see beyond a bad performance.

I would rather the music doesnt sound exactly like the records. I go to shows to be entertained. If I wanted to see some guys stand motionless on a stage and recreate the music pefectly, and look bored while they are at it, you're right...I could just put on a CD.

Take Bon Jovi...always a fucking phenomenal show. Rick Springfield, Night Ranger, Triumph, Rush, Springsteen...they know how to put on a show!

This is such a stupid argument. You want to see bad shows, enjoy yourself. I'll save my money for artists who give a shit about their fans.]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 11:27:14 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4933#msg-4933 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4933#msg-4933
Kevin]]> Kevin NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 11:15:58 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4925#msg-4925 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4925#msg-4925
Can't you just be happy that you got to see a band you grew up with live? Don't you have any emotion for the people in these bands? Why does it have to sound like the original recordings? You have to remember, the bands we grew up with do not have the payroll they once had. They can't afford the best sound guys in the business anymore plus they are older and possibly slower. Chances are better than not that our bands will not sound like they once did in concert.

In all honesty, I saw Foreigner back in 1985 and they were not the type of band that jumps around the stage doing flips. They are alot like Boston in concert. They just kind of stand there and do their thing. Personally, that doesn't bore me....but if it bores you then why not just put in the cd's. The whole thing about "live" shows to me is to SEE the artists that you love the music of. If the music sounds like the record, that's a bonus.

]]> Kilzer NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 07:59:58 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4923#msg-4923 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4923#msg-4923
Maybe it was an off night...whatever. I like Loverboy as much as I did back in the 80s but not so much to cloud my judgement that they simply sucked that night.

Same with when I saw Foreigner. Lou sounded pretty good but the perfomance just sucked. It was boring. No other way to put it. And I love Foreigner...I was disappointed. I dont care if he was still recovering.

If that's the case...stay off the road until you can give 100%! People are paying good $$$ these days...it aint like the 80s when concerts were $12!

Are you saying EVERY performance these bands ever gave was 100% dead on?

Why would I wanna pay good money to see a half assed performance? Luckily enough for them, Rick Springfield brought the roof down and more than made up for Loverboy's shitty performance. I mean, if you have the money to throw around like that...enjoy. Me? I'll better spend it on a band that still gives a shit about entertaining their fans.]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 07:18:35 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4922#msg-4922 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4922#msg-4922
All I'm saying is that for whatever reason some of them cannot do it anymore. Health problems and extra weight qualify as legitimate reasons. People who go to a Foreigner concert and don't care to remember all of the good times Lou Gramm provided for them over the years do not need to go. It's like visiting an old friend for me when I go see these guys. They were a major part of my life and brought me alot of smiles.

It's just like Dennis Deyoung not being in Styx. He is the one I grew up with, he is the one that I remember dancing to at the prom...ect... If I want to go see a cover musician sing Styx songs, I can go to the club down the street. I don't need to go see the "fake Styx". I consider these singers people from my past. They are not just replacable robots. If Foreigner got another singer, I would not go. I have not seen the "fake Styx" and I would not go see a "fake Foreigner". Even if the new guy sang the songs just like Lou did back in the day, it would not matter. I would rather see Lou talk his way through the songs anyday. I can play the cd to hear the songs...I am going to see Lou.

Sorry, I kind of went off on a rant there, but this is a touchy subject for me.]]> Kilzer NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 06:51:00 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4919#msg-4919 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4919#msg-4919
They played on a bill that night with Survivor, Rick Springfield, Starship and Eddie Money! All of them rocked except Flubberboy.
]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 04:27:34 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4913#msg-4913 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4913#msg-4913
I've tried to block that show out of my memory. And it's worked as I don't remember much about it except what I had previously mentioned. Kilzer wants to continue the fact that making a crack about someone's weight is a crime and I just want to put this thing to rest. He seems to want to make a bigger thing out of this than it is. You're right about Meatloaf. Someone else who's had cracks made about his weight forever. I'm tired of this subject, I've said my peace and I have better things to do with my time.

Long live rock,
SC]]> SC NoticeboardSat, 26 Aug 2000 00:44:13 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4905#msg-4905 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4905#msg-4905
I dont think so, I have better things to do with my money...yet I would pay more to hear them sound and perform great rather than to see someone struggle with something that is obviously very difficult for them. It's just sad, and sometimes funny.

Look, I love all these bands you're defending (like Loverboy and Foreigner) but cmon...if they suck live, stop making excuses for them. They were all very good at one point in their careers. And they may be again, but circustances dictated that lately they are not.

]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 21:30:44 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4904#msg-4904 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4904#msg-4904
I think his weight just added to the spectacle. I love Meat Loaf and he is still large. Ditto with Heart. But simple fact is, Loverboy sucked that night...weight on, weight off...]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 21:23:56 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4900#msg-4900 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4900#msg-4900 Mark NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 15:34:50 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4899#msg-4899 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4899#msg-4899
I agree with you totally. I have always like Foreigner and Journey. Although, Journey is my band. However, I saw them both last year in Charlotte. Foreigner did not even compare to Journey. Journey is the best band (sound wise) I have ever seen. Foreigner just didnt sound that good, and noone was standing much. Noone sat down during Journey.

]]> Mark NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 15:30:42 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4896#msg-4896 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4896#msg-4896
Did you read the post on here where Gene Simmons say he likes audience bootlegs because he can hear the audience saying things like "wow, look how fat Simmons got". You don't see Gene having a nervous breakdown. You know why? Because he doesn't let it affect him. He's still loved by millions. Sure, you can joke how he's put on quite a bit of weight in the last few years, but he's still more popular, richer and famous than me. Maybe that's the only thing people can find wrong with him, Mike Reno or Ann Wilson. So, in his eyes, he wins.

If I had sold millions of albums and had a career as illustrious as Heart, I think that's kind of petty of Ann to gripe about people talking about her being overweight. To quote Paul Stanley, "it's like winning the lottery and complaining about the taxes". I'm sure she's uncomfortable about it, otherwise it wouldn't affect her. But she let it get to her. If she wants to make a change in her life, only she can do it. It didn't stop me from buying Heart albums. Hell, I'm the only person I know who loves 'Desire Walks On'.

I think that if that's all Ann has to whine about, it must be a pretty tough life. Let's see...millions of fans, millions of albums sold, a great legacy, an incredibly talented songwriter AND an incredibly respected singer who has lost NOTHING in terms of her voice after all these years...but she's overweight. Trust me, I think she'll find a way to get through life.

No harm done and no hate intended.
SC]]> SC NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 12:39:05 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4895#msg-4895 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4895#msg-4895
These guys are just singers, they are not superhuman to the point that they can defy aging. The fact that you find an overweight man singing is comical says alot about your character.

Ann Wilson had to deal with this same crap from people like you to the point of her losing her self-confidence and practically having a nervous breakdown. Unlike Lou Gramm, her voice is still absolutely pitch perfect and instead of reviews talking about her voice, they talked about her weight. I'm sorry, but that is just wrong. This society we live in is a sesspool of shallow idiots. This thread was asking who disappointed you live. If you based it on their appearance rather than their performance then you have done the band and yourself an injustice.]]> Kilzer NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 11:57:01 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4889#msg-4889 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4889#msg-4889]]> sfk kurt NoticeboardFri, 25 Aug 2000 09:28:00 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4871#msg-4871 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4871#msg-4871
Lou Gramm is worthy of praise for what he has been through. God bless him.

As for being shallow, that's your opinion. When Loverboy came out on stage, I had trouble recognizing Mike Reno as he was always a very slim, if not skinny person.

BTW, I've never seen a picture of a skinny Pavorati. If you have, show me.You can't sit here and tell me that you've never made a crack about anyone ever. Give me a break. Just a little fun. If I met Mike Reno, I'm sure he's a decent guy and he's had a great career. He's certainly gotten farther than a lot of other singers.
And I'm sure you're so thoughtful, you've never poked fun at anyone...EVER. Okay.

Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone's stinks.]]> SC NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 19:57:52 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4867#msg-4867 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4867#msg-4867
As for Steve Augeri, I will agree that he is probably the best cover musician/singer out there. But then again, Gowen is giving him a good run for his money. His immitation of Dennis DeYoung is almost as perfect as Augeri's immitation of Steve Perry.]]> Kilzer NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 17:02:59 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4866#msg-4866 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4866#msg-4866
Mountain opening for Purple in '85 comes in as a close second. Leslie West was completely wasted and could barely walk - not to mention play.

And then there's Buddy Guy whom I've seen a number of times now. His concerts are usually pretty cool (he's a phenomenal guitar player), it's just that he likes to insult and curse out his audience - espeically if it's a non-English speaking crowd. ("Don't you f***ers understand English?!?" seems to be his favorite phrase.) Two years ago it had gotten so bad, that I actually walked out half way through the set. Haven't been to one of his shows since.]]> Peter M. Bietenholz NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 16:56:46 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4865#msg-4865 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4865#msg-4865The most respected vocalist in the world is Pavorotti.

Of course, I suppose you and your gorgeous wife will never grow old and have no flaws whatsoever. I truly fail to see the humor in other peoples health problems. If Mike wants to slim down or not is not your concern. Your concern should be if he is still putting out music that you like to listen to. ]]> Kilzer NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 16:49:44 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4857#msg-4857 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4857#msg-4857
Other disappointments:

W.A.S.P. opening for Iron Maiden in 1986. I know Blackie hated the Electric Circus album but it was a bit unnecessary to extend I wanna be somebody to 20 minutes of poster throwing and shouting rock cliches to avoid playing more tunes off the album. Plus the sound was awful and Blackie and Chris were more concentrated on "cool" stage moves than on their music - and that's being nice...

Ozzy on the Ozzmosis tour. He looked as if he would fall to the floor if he let go of the mike stand, he couldn't sing half of the material performed, and got off the stage after only an hour plus. The rhythm section of Randy Castillo and Geezer Butler was good as usual, but guitarist Joe Holmes -- I saw him mess up Eddie's and Vai's solos when he toured with David Lee Roth, and this time he lived up to all expectations by butchering Zakk's and Randy's material....

Backyard Babies in 97. I loved their 1st CD, and they rocked when they opened for Demolition 23 some years earlier. I really looked forward to seeing the best GnR/Hanoi clones and what I got was a bunch of spikey hair and safety pins style wannabe 70s punk rockers playing almost all new material which was total garbage. The fact that they opened for the no-talent rap metal posers Clawfinger didn't add to my enjoyment of the evening.. ]]> Maciej NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 06:56:03 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4827#msg-4827 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4827#msg-4827 KISSaholic NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 00:03:21 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4826#msg-4826 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4826#msg-4826 KISSaholic NoticeboardThu, 24 Aug 2000 00:01:44 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4825#msg-4825 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4825#msg-4825It sucked from the opening song of Metallica to Ozzy trying to say goodnight.The second worst was Queensryche and some sh*t group called Piston.I had to suffer
through a 30-45 minutes of Piston and then Queensryche came out.Geoff ways wheling away like always,after they do the forth song they walk off stage.Chris Degarmo says Geoff's throat is to sore to sing.I was so pissed and they haven't come back since.I'm dying to see them and that was back for the Hear In The Now Frontier.]]> KISSaholic NoticeboardWed, 23 Aug 2000 23:53:56 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4816#msg-4816 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4816#msg-4816]]> JoeMo NoticeboardWed, 23 Aug 2000 22:29:08 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4793#msg-4793 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4793#msg-4793P.]]> Pablo - Spain NoticeboardWed, 23 Aug 2000 14:24:17 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4788#msg-4788 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,4718,4788#msg-4788 Rob NoticeboardWed, 23 Aug 2000 13:43:53 +1000