Australian Charts

And remember...

Surfpunk — Fri, 04 Aug 2000 04:13:56 +1000

...sales from HMV will be recorded by CIN towards the national chart, therefore giving the scene some 'visible' sales. Which has to be a good thing.

And whoever is looking after the 'metal' section at HMV Liverpool seems to know their stuff. BAR 7 and SOULMOTOR being displayed in the TESLA section etc.
Very encouraging.

RE: Mutual admiration society!

Andrew Paul — Thu, 03 Aug 2000 17:43:24 +1000

Another glimmer is HMV opening metal sections in every store in the UK, and from a look in my local store, metal is defined as everything from Korn to Malmsteen. Whilst flicking through the racks a couple of weeks ago, it was a surprise to see a guy wearing Kerrang issue chains and spikes & Korn shirt picking up and buying copies of TNT's "Transistor", and the new Maiden album.
Rock music in various melodic forms is coming back, but we are all going to have to accept it's going to be a variation on a theme, eg a Mars Electric rather than a DreamHunter, Heartland or Ten.
Let's not forget the amount of teenagers bands like Hammerfall pull in.granted, some will fall by the wayside, but others will remain and want to explore the whole scene further, which can only be a positive thing, and it will arrest the creeping stagnation which peoples' obsession with 1988/9 brings.

Mutual admiration society!

Surfpunk — Thu, 03 Aug 2000 04:56:32 +1000

Exactly right, Andrew.
Ex Warner UK chairman Rob Dickens (now starting his own label) summed it up perfectly when he said that the 'tail is wagging the dog'. UK labels are now signing bands that they know radio will play instead of getting radio to support the bands they sign!

I commented on CLASSIC ROCK in another thread, but I agree with you on that one too!

RE: Australian Charts: Britain is worse.

Andrew Paul — Wed, 02 Aug 2000 23:01:18 +1000

And the attitude of the UK is amusing, when you bear in mind how small the UK market is compared to say Germany! Someone,who shall remain nameless, told me that if a band with the vision of a Queen came along now the UK industry would not touch them under any circumstance.
The UK industry seems to have reverted to the days of tin-pan alley production lines and songs, which mean greater profit margins, after all,it makes sense to make a £100,000 video that will be seen on every UK tv station to push a Billie, as opposed to £150,000 putting a rock band on the road with little likelihood of an, and this is the key, instant return.
Additionally, it is easier to manipulate and control a gaggle of 16 year olds, than it is a group of musicians in their late 20's or early 30's who have learnt their craft, and know what they want to do.
Classic Rock is a glimmer in the darkness, bringing people back into the scene who dropped out when Kerrang and Metal Hammer sold out. It is a slow process, but it is working.

RE: Australian Charts: Britain is worse.

Surfpunk — Wed, 02 Aug 2000 04:11:47 +1000

I guess this is just what the 'kids' want in these territories.

The unfortunate thing is that the UK music industry LIKES to feel that it creates new, credible artists and that the rest of the world ie. Europe and Japan are either responsible for a) a constant stream of pseudo Eurovision pap or b) the place where bands go when they've stopped selling ANYWHERE else in the world! (Step up HAREM SCAREM!!).

There ARE some good new British bands appearing ( not rock bands of course!) but it's a horribly 'superior' stance to take. But an attitude that persists in the minds of music journalists etc over here.

Step back and watch the UK try and flog WESTLIFE and RONAN KEATING to the US over the next few months, and bear in mind that Clive Davis has said that he personally will see to the success of Westlife. Could be SANTANA all over again!!!!

i like "freestyler"!!!!

Geoff — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 16:48:12 +1000

Seen the vid??? Cool stuff.

RE: Australian Charts: Britain is worse.

KAOS FAN — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:21:41 +1000

Richard, the Australian charts are disappointing form an aor/hard rock perspective but it's definently worse overseas. I keep my ear to the ground and follow the British charts and over there it's diabolical. Their Top of the Pops show which is shown on cable here is completely dominated by dance acts of the trashiest order. At least here in OZ we have a very large 'rock' base and this manifests itself in the charts occassionaly. Due to lack of promotion, however AOR bands haven't grabbed a foothold yet. Cheers.kaos fan.

RE: Farnham at 42

Richard Stewart — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:09:01 +1000

Never actually heard it... yet...

Andrew may have...

Richard

Farnham at 42

Andre — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 07:21:15 +1000

So what about the John Farnham song at nr.42 ,
is it any good ?

RE: Don't worry ! Look at the French Charts

Cédric — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 05:05:21 +1000

Hi Richard,

Don't worry, it's the same crap here !!! (in France) :

1. Yannick "Ces soirées-là"
2. Santana "Maria Maria"
3. Mylène Farmer "Innamoramento"
4. Daniel Lévi "L'envie d'aimer"
5. Anastacia "I'm Outta Love"
6. Hélène Segara "Elle, tu l'aimes"
7. Alizée "Moi... Lolita"
8. Modjo "Lady (Hear Me Tonight)"
9. Moby "Natural Blues"
10. Bomfunk Mc's "Freestyler"
11. Lady "Easy Love"
12. Bouga "Belsunce Breakdown"
13. Damien Sargue & Cecilia Cara "Aimer"
14. Britney Spears "Oops !... I Did It Again"
15. Mary Mary "Shackles (Praise You)"
16. Eminem "The Real Slim Shady"
17. French Affair "My Heart Goes Boom"
18. Raydel "Hey Arriba"
19. Lou Bega "Mambo Mambo"
20. Ben-J & Jacky (Neg' Marrons) "Le bilan"
21. Toni Braxton "He Wasn't Man Enough"
22. Sawt El Atlas "Ne me jugez pas"
23. Melanie C "Never Be The Same Again"
24. Bon Jovi "It's My Life"
25. Shania Twain "That Don't Impress Me Much"
26. One Shot "Millenaire / Trop de polémiques (B.O.F. Taxi 2)"
27. Matt "12/0013"
28. Sisqo "Thong Song"
29. En Vogue "Riddle"
30. Mariah Carey "Against All Odds"

I stop here, I'm fed up with this shit... Like you can see, Australian people are not so bad. Bon Jovi is number 6 in your country. Here, it's number 24 !!!! What a shit !
It's the only one AOR song in 100 "songs"...

Anybody have a time machine ? Please call me... Thanks so much...

Keep rockin' in these awful times
Cédric

RE: Australian Charts

Kevin — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 03:57:35 +1000

"scary" would be that I don't even know who half of these bands are...and I'm konwn to listen to radio on occasion...

Kevin

Australian Charts

Richard Stewart — Tue, 01 Aug 2000 01:04:12 +1000

This may be off topic but I just though I'd share the horrible state of the Australian music charts with everyone... (But hey - Bon Jovi's at No 6!!!)

TW LW HP WI ACCR
1. ( 1) #1 7w

I'M OUTTA LOVE - Anastacia [2 weeks at #1]
2. ( 2) #1 11w FREESTYLER - Bomfunk MC's
3. ( 3) #2 11w

THONG SONG - Sisqo
4. (10) #4 3w JUMPIN' JUMPIN' - Destiny's Child
5. ( 4) #4 8w SHALALA LALA - Vengaboys
6. ( 6) #5 12w

IT'S MY LIFE - Bon Jovi
7. ( 7) #7 2w WE WILL ROCK YOU - Five and Queen
8. ( 5) #1 8w

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU - Madison Avenue *
9. ( 9) #8 10w DAY AND NIGHT - Billie Piper
10. ( 8) #8 9w TOCA'S MIRACLE - Fragma Vs. Coco

11. (12) #11 4w TRY AGAIN - Aaliya
12. (11) #1 6w

SPINNING AROUND - Kylie Minogue *
13. (13) #10 7w I THINK I'M IN LOVE WITH YOU - Jessica Simpson
14. (15) #14 5w THE REAL SLIM SHADY - Eminem
15. (19) #15 6w COULD I HAVE THIS KISS FOREVER
- Whitney Houston and Enrique Iglesias
16. (14) #4 11w

SHINE - Vanessa Amorosi *
17. (20) #12 11w RIP IT UP - 28 Days *
18. (16) #11 7w IT'S GONNA BE ME - 'N Sync
19. (--) #19 1w LIFE IS A ROLLERCOASTER - Ronan Keating
20. (26) #20 6w BREATHLESS - The Corrs

21. (17) #2 17w

NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN
- Melanie C. with Lisa "Left-Eye" Lopes
22. (22) #19 16w AMAZED - Lonestar
23. (21) #21 6w IT FEELS SO GOOD - Sonique
24. (--) #24 1w ORDINARY GIRL - Jackson Mendoza *
25. (23) #21 7w SO REAL - Mandy Moore
26. (27) #26 2w JUST AROUND THE HILL - Sash! with Tina Cousins
27. (34) #27 12w BREATHE - Faith Hill
28. (31) #23 6w GOT BEEF - Snoop Dogg
29. (35) #29 8w DESENSITIZED - Invertigo *
30. (28) #28 7w TAKE A LOOK AROUND - Limp Bizkit

31. (25) #8 18w

HOLIDAY - Naughty By Nature
32. (44) #32 4w EVERYTHING YOU WANT - Vertical Horizon
33. (32) #26 12w SUNSHINE ON A RAINY DAY - Christine Anu *
34. (38) #34 2w I WANNA KNOW - Joe
35. (33) #33 2w SHACKLES (PRAISE YOU) - Mary Mary
36. (37) #36 2w TOO MANY TIMES - S2S *
37. (45) #21 9w BLOW UP THE POKIES / THANK YOU
(FOR LOVING ME AT MY WORST) - The Whitlams *
38. (46) #38 2w WONDERFUL - Everclear
39. (48) #34 9w TEENAGER OF THE YEAR - Lo-Tel *
40. (43) #40 2w SANDSTORM - Darude

41. (24) #14 9w I SHOULD'VE NEVER LET YOU GO - Bardot *
42. (47) #42 2w TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE WITHOUT YOU - John Farnham *
43. (--) #43 1w NOTHING IN THIS WORLD - Taxiride *
44. (--) #44 1w CAN YOU STAND THE HEAT - Anuj *
45. (50) #14 20w ROCK ME ALL NIGHT - Kaylan *
46. (41) #17 15w MAMBO ITALIANO - Shaft
47. (RE) #19 12w BENT - Matchbox Twenty
48. (36) #36 2w THEY'RE TRYIN TO KILL ME - Tupac Shakur
49. (--) #49 1w THE HOLLOW - A Perfect Circle
50. (30) #2 17w

THERE YOU GO - Pink

Richard...