Just look at the Amazon.com ranking today. Guildersleeves is now #1528. If they can keep that sales level for a month, Billboard is not far away.... Bon Jovi's Crush obviously made great effect on great mid-careered melodic rock artists such as Mr.Big and Danger Danger. D2 is now leading among them. Regards Susumuhttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2913#msg-2913Fri, 24 May 2013 17:27:41 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2987#msg-2987 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2987#msg-2987
Danger Danger's Guildersleeves has been doing quite well as I found that the album got support from the music fans who buy the similar taste of music.
They got support from The Storm fans...It is not only D2 fans buying their CDs.

So if major distributors start supporting them D2 album's sales will skyrocket.

It is too much burden for Low Dice merely an indie label.

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardSun, 09 Jul 2000 16:27:11 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2986#msg-2986 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2986#msg-2986Given the Amazon's tremendous influence over the music fans, if you keep introducing MHR artists by posting your reviews, it will pay off in the long run.

Two Fires made a great start thanks to prompt reviews by Storm fans(including myself). The bottom line is provide relevant info and Amazon community take care of the rest....

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardSun, 09 Jul 2000 16:16:21 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2967#msg-2967 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2967#msg-2967
It's all very well buying albums direct from the labels or from online/mail order 'specialist' retailers but these retailers are not recognised by the compilers of the official UK charts. So although the labels make more profit and attract sales from their core target market, ultimately the sales count for NOTHING in the eyes of the media.It's as if the sales haven't happened. Therefore there is no exposure given to the artists.

Small labels have their function in keeping the scene alive but at the end of the day we NEED the major labels to be able to get the albums into the CORRECT outlets and be proud of the artists in order for them to promote them properly.And I'm not talking about 80's acts rising phoenix like from the ashes here.

We need new blood.

]]> Surfpunk NoticeboardSun, 09 Jul 2000 02:01:20 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2963#msg-2963 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2963#msg-2963market like Japan in order to make it somewhat worthwhile for them to still make
music that we love.Example Nelson,Enuff Znuff,Mr.Big. If the US numbers
were any indication we would live life with only the Backstreet Boys&Spears.

I saw Mr. Big at a club that holds 2500, about 300 people showed up . The group was incredible Martin,Sheehan,Torpey,Kotzen collectively tore the roof off the place. A friend of mine who never had seen them before could not believe a group
so talented goes so unappreciated.

I guess thats why we pay the big bucks to get the imports instead of the US
market to release the stuff.

]]> Dave NoticeboardSun, 09 Jul 2000 00:21:42 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2933#msg-2933 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2933#msg-2933
Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 10:05:18 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2932#msg-2932 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2932#msg-2932
Take Mr.Big for example their latest album sold more than 100,000 copies in Japan and can rival Backstreet Boys ,Christina Aguiella, Ricky Martin in popularity.
It is hard to believe for American rock fans but it is true.

And they are highly appreciated by editors of BURRN one of the most popular hard rock magazines in Japan. Mr.Big occupied almost the same space as Bon Jovi and Poison in recent BURRN issues. Enuff'Z Nuff and Danger Danger are highly appreciated by serious rock fans in Japan.

Nelson is still popular here. Say It Isn't So from their 1997 release Silence Is Broken became #1 in Japanese oversea artist charts.

It may be hard to believe there's such a world where their talents are appreciated as such.

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 09:47:20 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2931#msg-2931 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2931#msg-2931
Danger Danger was ranked around #7000 to #9000 so I presume they have sales of 10 to 20 pcs per week(in Amazon.com alone). I doubt they can keep that high sales ranking level because Low Dice aren't prepared for such massive sales.
They are independent labels so they gradually furnishes for larger scale sales.
If the record company increase the production level and still running out of stocks
there will be great hope for D2.

There are greater attention to mid careered great American rockers. As a businessman's perspective it makes sense. For record companies it has less risk for promotion because they scored great success in late 80s and early 90s and people still remember. And these artists know how it feels to be successful
and want that things to happen again. They are still hungry for success naturally that will heighten up their talent and we will have great albums. Now only I see Mr.Big and Danger Danger which seems to be leading that trend so far. But I see chances for Enuff'Z Nuff and Nelson.

Let's hope them success for 2000!!

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 08:42:16 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2929#msg-2929 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2929#msg-2929 Steve NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 08:06:53 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2925#msg-2925 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2925#msg-2925So is Gildersleeves well on it's way to becoming a good seller?

Actually, no. The reason you find it hard to believe is because, while it may not be strictly untrue, it is extremely misleading to say that it shot up to 1,500 because lots of people were buying it.

The fact that at the given moment Susumu visited the page it said "Ranking: 1,500" doesn't mean that so many people are buying it that it has somehow caught up to the hordes of other releases. You have to see how Amazon.com's rating system works - it is not based on overall sales, but on sales NOW. The sales ratings are constantly being updated several times a day. What that means is that if I bought a CD that was hardly selling and has a rating around 15,000 or so, the next day it will have shot way past the hordes of CDs rated in the back just like it and that aren't selling either. So Gildersleeves will be *temporarily* several thousand places in the front. Especially if on that particular day, the other CDs ranked over 1,000 or so weren't being bought. To state the obvious, if I buy a copy of Gildersleeves it's not going to get a whole lot of competition from CDs placed at 3,000 or 8,000 because since those are also ranked at the back, odds are they won't have sold at all that day. So the ranking corresponds for a day or less, and gradually as the other no-selling CD's at the back catch up, Gildersleevs will fall accordingly. It's a temporary illusion based on the sale of one or two CDs. I just took a peek and it's back down to 6,800 and falling fast.....

The fact that you have to wait 4 - 6 weeks for them to get Gildersleeves in stock after you order it sure isn't helping any. In fact, do you really want to know how close Gildersleeves is to making it to the Billboard charts? According to Soundscan, the amount of CDs sold of Gilderleeves in the US is less than 300. The is the version sold in the US from Low Dice Records (the same one offered by Amazon) - figures from Japan & Europe are larger I'm sure, but don't count for the Billboard charts and are of other record labels.

Hell, I remember trying to find the CD of Gildersleeves when I was in the US in April to no avail. I searched everywhere, from Virgin to Tower to Borders to the smaller retail stores: nothing. So this talk about it even being on release in the US is only half-true.....a few scattered copied may be out there someplace, but good luck getting it!

I like D2 as much as the next man (probably more!) and appreciate and understand Susumu's enthusiasm, but we shouldn't get all excited about something that is very, very far from being true.

Cheers,
Jack.






]]> Jack NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 06:05:37 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2924#msg-2924 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2924#msg-2924 Ferrari Sparklepants NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 05:43:01 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2916#msg-2916 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2916#msg-2916Is D2 really outselling those guys on Amazon.com? I find that hard to believe...I love D2 and would love to see them have success...]]> Derrick Dryves NoticeboardSat, 08 Jul 2000 00:11:18 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2913#msg-2913 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2913,2913#msg-2913
Bon Jovi's Crush obviously made great effect on great mid-careered melodic rock artists such as Mr.Big and Danger Danger. D2 is now leading among them.

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardFri, 07 Jul 2000 21:25:33 +1000