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<description> I am an avid lover of the eighties style melodicrock/metal/rock, or whatever you want to call it. But....I think its time to accept that that era is over &amp;amp; it most likely aint comin' back! I think this latest resurgence of these eighties bands trying to make a comeback was great....most of them came out with cd's that were true to their eighties style. Other than Def Leppard going gold (500,000 sold) with Euphoria, most of these bands did not find much success.

At one point, I heard Great White's cd had sold ~60,000, Ratt had approx. the same # sold, Dokken, Iron Maiden...... Even Bon Jovi's latest attempt, Crush has rapidly dropped from #9 to #29 in the Billboard rankings. AC-DC's Stiff Upper Lip debuted high in the charts then rapidly dropped from the rankings as well. Sad. While we see the &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; rock....Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, etc... selling 6, 7 million plus.

Part of the problem may be that these eighties bands just aren't putting out the material they used to, when they were young and HUNGRY. I am hoping that some band, whether new or an eighties band, will come out with a BREAKTHROUGH cd that will bring this style back. However, for the most part, I have accepted that this era is over &amp;amp; probably will only remain in my memories (great ones they were!).

Any opinions or arguments to what I've just said??????????

p.s. One person I am pulling for is Mark Kendall &amp;amp; his new band, Train Station.....maybe they'll be the band that has a big breakthrough! </description><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2811#msg-2811</link><lastBuildDate>Thu, 20 Jun 2013 06:44:23 +1000</lastBuildDate>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,3550#msg-3550</link><description><![CDATA[ I too love all things 80's and in fact 70's as well.<br /><br />Look on the bright side you can trail around 2nd hand shops and pick up some absolute 80's classics at present.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Nick Green</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2911#msg-2911</link><description><![CDATA[ I agree in most parts of your post, but do we really want it to be as big as in the 80s ???<br />Just to see everyone jump on the bandwaggon again and sign all the crap.<br />What is left today are the REAL fans, who buy and love the stuff, no matter what others say or think, and the REAL musicians, the ones who give 110% on stage, no matter how big or small the audience is.<br />And that's so cool about all the scene - the big family.<br /><br />DJ<br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>DJ Klaus</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2875#msg-2875</link><description><![CDATA[ I think you hit the nail in the head here.<br /><br />The music industry survives on change. For every generation of music buyers it loses a new generation comes along and each generation needs something to call its own. Chances are, if you're in your 30's now and were into the 80's rock scene, the labels think your time has gone! Like it or not, and we can all complain and harp on about how quality should count, but listen, what teenagers are going to like the music their parents like? Being a teenager is about rebelling for Godsake!<br /><br />There IS a place for 80's musicians but the 'cutting edge' isn't it! Accept the scene as it is. Be grateful there are still people that want to try and provide us with the sound we yearn for but...open your eyes and ears and appreciate some of the great, current bands/music out there whilst retaining your respect for the guys who don't want to die just yet.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Surfpunk</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Jovi support in UK</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2874#msg-2874</link><description><![CDATA[ I believe TOPLOADER have got the UK support slot on the Bon Jovi tour and they are an EXCELLENT band! Maybe not the style you were all hoping for but I would urge you to get there early enough to catch them. They may just be the future for British 'rock'.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Surfpunk</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2853#msg-2853</link><description><![CDATA[ Perhaps a twist on the original themes would help, and someone like Bon Jovi taking, say, Mars Electric or Marvellous3 on the road with them would be a massive boost.<br />One thing I always find strange is the term big hair bands being such a term of abuse. Why did putting a show on become unacceptable-unless of course it ate into record company profits? And haven't bands such as Slipknot/Korn/Coal Chamber et al have rules and regulations regarding image, you know, the jump in the right place, the wallet chain, the new tatts, the goatee, the PublicEnemy stage persona, the personality disorders to be broadcast to the planet.<br />A Stateside friend of mine told me that when Cinderella's &quot;Still Climbing&quot; album came out, a dj on his local station smashed it up on air, saying that &quot;We're not playing this shit!&quot;<br />The drive into the underground was industry-driven.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Andrew Paul</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2850#msg-2850</link><description><![CDATA[ Well, i think you right in some way, but know what, the era aint over it just began!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at all those new bands coming out, the great music that sourounds as MHR fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br /><br /><br />I´m just 18 but kept the flame alive and always will, by listening, making and writing the music i/we love!! ANd i´m sure that there are others in my age that also to so!<br /><br /><br />-Alex!]]></description>
<dc:creator>alex siedler</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2846#msg-2846</link><description><![CDATA[ The problem to me seems to be that the two 'eras' never meet. Now I don't know all the ins and outs of the business but I realise most guest spots have to be paid for.<br />Take for instance the forthcoming Alice / Bon Jovi tours in the UK. We all wait with baited breath expecting the support slots to be like the old days i.e. quality hard rock, and they're crap. Someone needs to take a chance and mix the best of the old with the best of the new but no-one's willing to foot the bill. The old band shows currently touring the States would be livened up significantly with the likes of Damned Nation or Push on the bill.<br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>TERRY</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: well Mr. F.O.R.D.</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2840#msg-2840</link><description><![CDATA[ I agree to a point with you wayne..but I MISS THE IMAGE!!!!!!.....to me the way you look can affect the music, just like the clothes you wear affects your mood. I to hope the bands you mentioned come out with some material worth talking about.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
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<title>well Mr. F.O.R.D.</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2838#msg-2838</link><description><![CDATA[ while i do agree with you on some things , and i do hope that VH does come back and revive the rock scene i still hope cinderella , ratt, poison, and my personal fav warrant come back with them. To label them because they were so called hairspray bands is ridiculus they all made some great music that i still listen to quite often . Van Halen is and always will be one of the best rock bands ever. But these so called pretty boys did more than pose for pictures they rocked and showed us a good time and i for one loved it and wish i could go back in time and see them all one more time. There is alot of new bands out there i love too Vaughn,house of shikira, fair warning,gotthard, etc... definitely great bands without the image , too many people judge the bands by thier look and not whats important the music. ]]></description>
<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2837#msg-2837</link><description><![CDATA[ I couldn't agree more!! And speaking of Poison....this band seriously needs to sit down...look at thier past product ala 'Look What The Cat Dragged In' and remember what made them cool to begin with....what the hell are they doing now?...same goes for Vain.....Roxx Gang.....Pretty Boy Floyd.....all these bands are still together is some respect but are putting out crap! These bands seem to have lost thier way.....WAKE UP!!<br /><br />And as for the days of the 80's to be gone that's your own choice....the style in some of the bands today are still thier, and personally will never go away. For people to sit at home, turn on Mtv and think about yesterday is foolish...screw Mtv...my CD player still rocks and I could care less what the hell some 19yr old kid is listening to....if it becomes popular again...great, if not who cares? On one hand we blame the media for no promotion and then if we did get it we'd bitch about who's getting more coverage....the real problem are the bands. They just need to put out a solid product where 'true and real fans' can buy something they'll enjoy. I do wish I could go into a store and see a band that looks cool....I still can't believe the 'college' guy look is still attracting people...UGH...where is House Of Lords when you need them?..Oh.yeah....in my CD Player!!<br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2833#msg-2833</link><description><![CDATA[ Well if you feel the need to &quot;let it go&quot; the do so. When your a die hard rocker and you lived through the FUN times of the 80's, then it's in your blood to stay.<br />As for me, I like all types of music but when it comes to the happiest and most FUN /memorable times of my life it was when the 80's hair music was around and I'll never give up that time in my life when especially now, I can put on a Danger2, Extreme, or Poison cd and go back to that concert(s) or time in my life that I enjoyed the most. You could go to a killer concert ,bang your head, and not think twice about getting hurt and having some big huge sweaty guy moshing you while you tried to enjoy the show. As far as record sales, I think the bands that are still trying out there and giving it thier all are doing it not for the money but because they are dedicated to thier fans and do it because they LOVE to play.<br />The era maybe gone for right now ..but remember, everything comes back around. And those of us who still believe in the music will ALWAYS keep the era alive!!!<br />And I feel thats most of the ppl who post on this site.<br />Rock On !!!!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2827#msg-2827</link><description><![CDATA[ As much as I don't want to get involved (again) in any VH wars, I sincerely hope you are correct that they can re-ignite the radio with hardrock with their new album. In my opinion, they are probably the only band who has a real shot at it given that they have been around so long, through so many different eras and had both &quot;rocker&quot; appeal with Roth and the more &quot;commercial&quot; appeal with Sammy (I'm not really sure what to say about the appeal of Gary even though I loved Extreme in their day, ie. albums 1-3). For the sake of the state of rock in North America, I hope VH can produce a masterpiece that will get everyone's attention.<br /><br />Please, please, please Mr. Record Executives. Give the new VH some backing and help put some good old rock and roll back on the radio.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Whynot</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2826#msg-2826</link><description><![CDATA[<br /><br />Mrpool wrote:<br />------------------------------<br />Part of the problem may be that these eighties bands just aren't putting out the material they used to, when they were young and HUNGRY. I am hoping that some band, whether new or an eighties band, will come out with a BREAKTHROUGH cd that will bring this style back. However, for the most part, I have accepted that this era is over &amp; probably will only remain in my memories (great ones they were!).<br />------------------------------<br /><br />There will be an 80's band with a breakthrough album in the very near future. Perhaps you may remember the band? Their name is...............<br /><br />VAN FUCKING HALEN!!<br /><br />However, let's hope that this does NOT bring a return of hairspray queens like Poison, Slaughter, Cinderella, Nelson, etc. But the bands who had something to say will say it again, and then (as it happens at the beginning of every decade) a new wave of bands will come along to wipe away all the crap of the boybands and Limp Dickzit types.<br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>F.O.R.D.</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2825#msg-2825</link><description><![CDATA[ I think you've summed it up - 80's style (hard) rock may still exist but it will never get out of the doldrums again - certainly not when bands like Ratt, L.A. Guns, Warrant, etc. have weekly line-up changes and put out average or crappy albums. My personal nostalgia cravings are limited - still play the old albums and love them for the most part, but I have no desire to relive all that stuff at the bar down the street. Music is an everchanging thing and I personally love discovering new stuff, bands that add new flavors, etc.. That's what music is all about to me. Every generation has 'their bands', we certainly had ours, but only a handful of artists have every transcended trends and generation gaps. Let's face it - a lot of 80's music was incredibly superficial and not made to last an eternity - it reflected a time, and that time, that 'collective mindset', no longer exists, which is why today's generation can't relate to Bon Jovi and Def Leppard (and I don't blame them). I couldn't either I'm sure. Not that the 90's were 'all that', but one thing I'm convinced of - a record like 'Ten' or 'Superunknown' will still be talked about in 25 years because they connect on a deeper level. This isn't fluff - this is heart and soul music. Lots of 80's music, and not just hard rock, was severely lacking in that regard, which is why it is so easily dismissed by many. Still, I do hope that the great stuff out of the 80's will eventually be acknowledged as 'classic rock' and played alongside Zep and Rush, instead of ridiculed as dumb hair metal. Leppard may be irrelevant now, but 'Pyromania' is a gem; Queensryche put out some incredible stuff - give them their due. And there is more to Metallica than the last 2 turds and the Black Album. I could go on...]]></description>
<dc:creator>John Q</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2819#msg-2819</link><description><![CDATA[ Do we really want it as big as it was in the eighties?Then we would have the likes of Kerrang and M.T.V. building it up just so they can knock it all down again!At least now we have the real fans of the genre-just a pity there aren't a few more of us!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Davy(N.I.)</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2816#msg-2816</link><description><![CDATA[ i think alot of these bands would do alot better if the had more publicity i have some younger people from 18 to 25 on my crew at work and when i play cds like johnny lima , attraction,harem scarem, they ask where i got it and say its cool. The trouble is that the public buys what they hear and if there isnt any promotion of this music itll never get a chance. If radio stations would play some of the new dokken great white etc.. this would help alot. I love this music and always will .itll never be as big as it was (and i hope im wrong) but itll always be around because people like me and you like what we like and not what is trendy and arent afraid to go look for it. Yes the eighties are over and im not 19 anymore but good music is timeless. I seem to remember a few years back people saying grunge was here to stay, well i still run into alot of people that love our music but i very seldom here people say &quot;boy do i miss soundgarden&quot;. Keep the faith it may not come back big but it will come back . the new def leppard was a good start now more bands need to follow...]]></description>
<dc:creator>wayne</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on..</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2815#msg-2815</link><description><![CDATA[ Well, I do have to agree with most of the things you've said even though I myself, hate to admit it. However, I do think melodic rock is alive and well in the new millenium. But washed up bands like Great White, Ratt, etc. aren't going to do anything for the genre of music. I bet if a major label signed artists like Hugo and really put in effort in marketing the album, I'm sure it would be huge. These days, no one gives a flying fuck about Bon Jovi (except me and a few others), just like 10 years from now we're going to look back and laugh our asses off on all these &quot;wigger&quot; bands. Fuck KornHOLE, Fuck Limp DICK, and Fuck Kid KOCK.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Ferrari Sparklepants</dc:creator>
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<title>time to accept the era is over &amp;amp; move on....</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2811,2811#msg-2811</link><description><![CDATA[ I am an avid lover of the eighties style melodicrock/metal/rock, or whatever you want to call it. But....I think its time to accept that that era is over &amp; it most likely aint comin' back! I think this latest resurgence of these eighties bands trying to make a comeback was great....most of them came out with cd's that were true to their eighties style. Other than Def Leppard going gold (500,000 sold) with Euphoria, most of these bands did not find much success.<br /><br />At one point, I heard Great White's cd had sold ~60,000, Ratt had approx. the same # sold, Dokken, Iron Maiden...... Even Bon Jovi's latest attempt, Crush has rapidly dropped from #9 to #29 in the Billboard rankings. AC-DC's Stiff Upper Lip debuted high in the charts then rapidly dropped from the rankings as well. Sad. While we see the &quot;new&quot; rock....Kid Rock, Limp Bizkit, etc... selling 6, 7 million plus.<br /><br />Part of the problem may be that these eighties bands just aren't putting out the material they used to, when they were young and HUNGRY. I am hoping that some band, whether new or an eighties band, will come out with a BREAKTHROUGH cd that will bring this style back. However, for the most part, I have accepted that this era is over &amp; probably will only remain in my memories (great ones they were!).<br /><br />Any opinions or arguments to what I've just said??????????<br /><br />p.s. One person I am pulling for is Mark Kendall &amp; his new band, Train Station.....maybe they'll be the band that has a big breakthrough! ]]></description>
<dc:creator>Mrpool</dc:creator>
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