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<description> Man, it's about time a label put there money where there mouth is, congratulations to Z Records for trying to push their shows to a larger audience with their show to be held at THE RITZ in Manchester.
I'll be definitely going to Z2001 after this years show [and the Gods if it happens].
The best thing is that the line up is nearly all acts whom I have not seen yet, does anyone know of any other acts whom maybe appearing ? I mailed Z yesterday and they said Danny Danzi, Damned Nation and Savannah would not be on next years show,
so who will play ?
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<title>RE: Tell me MORE!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2495#msg-2495</link><description><![CDATA[ that rammy,<br />was some petty minded oik,showing his misplaced 'loyalty' to one of z records competitors,and the reason why this pathetic<br />uk rock label 'war'is actually driven by people who have nothing whatsoever to do with<br />these labels, in actual terms,not just telling their mates that are 'good friends' with the label manager]]></description>
<dc:creator>rachel</dc:creator>
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<title>think your facts are wrong</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2481#msg-2481</link><description><![CDATA[<br />If you are saying that Z Records did that you are very wrong, why would they.<br />Fact is that Z Records was and still is the sponcer for these nights even though<br />Mark Alger has quit djing. If you buy from any specialist mailorder you would see<br />the advert that states it on the Z printed news letter.<br />Even better the poster for Z 2001 states that the show is endorsed by Maximes AOR night with many other logo's that are featured at the foot of the posters that are outside the Ritz .<br /><br />Emo<br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Emo</dc:creator>
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<title>think your facts are wrong</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2480#msg-2480</link><description><![CDATA[<br />If you are saying that Z Records did that you are very wrong, why would they.<br />Fact is that Z Records was and still is the sponcer for these nights even though<br />Mark Alger has quit djing. If you buy from any specialist mailorder you would see<br />the advert that states it on the Z printed news letter.<br />Even better the poster for Z 2001 states that the show is endorsed by Maximes AOR night with many other logo's that are featured at the foot of the posters that are outside the Ritz .<br /><br />Emo<br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Emo</dc:creator>
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<title>Tell me MORE!</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2477#msg-2477</link><description><![CDATA[<br />What was that all about ??<br /><br />Rammy.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rammy</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2462#msg-2462</link><description><![CDATA[ Trying to persuade people that the melodic rock night at Wigan Maximes had changed it's position in the month though beacuse NOW and THEN promoted it was a shitty trick though!!]]></description>
<dc:creator>Stir Crazy</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2459#msg-2459</link><description><![CDATA[ I disagree here,<br />Don't forget THE GODS in 1998 had HUMAN RACE a Z Records band, DARE an MTM band and HEARTLAND from Escape music on, so you see it is possible for these labels to work together, all these guys at the labels are the ones who have bought the scene single handidly to where it stands today, especially here in the UK, where without these labels we would have nothing in the way of concerts except for a few of the MAJOR LABEL bands.<br />Be careful for what you wish for because one day it may happen and we may have NOTHING period, wasn't it bad enough before Now And Then came along? quit babbling and support them and everyone else from Z to Kivel and Song Haus Music for gods (sorry) sake, and stop bitching, instead of posting silly messages of compalint on this board, go and listen to the bands instead!!!<br /><br />I think the labels need to stop battling at each other and support one another, because at the end of the day the fans will buy the albums if they are good, regardless of what label they come out on. Actual the labels do keep themselves to themselves and there's not much battling as they all do there own thing, but it's mostly people who post messages on here that stir things up, so a label has to answer, if someone spat at your mother what would you do? Sit and watch? I don't think so!!<br />I think we all should be supportive, never mind your points of wether you like a particular band or not, if you like an album, tell your mates to go and buy it, supporte the labels that support us in giving us most of the time quality melodic hard rock and AOR. I do feel that these labels lack in progressive music and should take a chance in one of these bands, there are so many good ones on the underground scene to be snapped up.<br />Over and out!!!!<br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Nicky</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2452#msg-2452</link><description><![CDATA[<br />I doubt that will ever happen, could you see Z Records let Vaughn, Lillian Axe or Von Groove support Ten I doubt it. On the other hand could you see Now &amp; Then let Ten support one of the above the answer is no.<br />Both labels are different, Now &amp; Then is more Pink and AOR where as Z Records are an out and out Melodic Hard Rock label and both believe in their material.<br />As I said before Z Records are currently out promoting and maybe even out selling [not sure] their opposition here in rainy Nottingham, maybe this will make the other labels follow with some good promotion !.<br /><br />Lonesome Dave<br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Lonesome Dave</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2451#msg-2451</link><description><![CDATA[ It seems as if Z Records make people edgy and defensive with the way they get on with things. As an example, when Z backed a publication MHR all sorts of hell was visited upon them, yet another label backs a new publication due out shortly, and there is not a peep of complaint. Double standards in operation here?!<br />Like every other label, Z has released some great stuff, eg, Jekyll &amp; Hyde-check out Jake's new demo- and some poop eg Push. But again they are pushing (sorry)things for their benefit-it's a business-and for the benefit of what it is still a pretty lethargic scene.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Andrew Paul</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2450#msg-2450</link><description><![CDATA[<br /><br />Z Records are great!<br />Now and Then are Great!<br />MTM are great!!!!<br />Escape are not quite so good but .....<br /><br />Wouldn't it be good if they joined forces for one huge gig!!!!<br /><br />Rammy.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rammy</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2449#msg-2449</link><description><![CDATA[<br />Why is it that people have to knock Z Records or any other label.<br />I agree that Now &amp; Then have done some great work and still do, but give Z Records their due they certainly kick some serious ass and at present are by far<br />the most prominant label.<br /><br /><br />Lonesome Dave]]></description>
<dc:creator>Lonesome Dave</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2398#msg-2398</link><description><![CDATA[<br />My apologies Mark!<br /><br />Now and Then records are and will always be my favourite label! - Way back before MTM or Z records were around you guys were releasing stuff like the Gary Hughes solo albums, James Christian and Red Dawn! - My most treasured AOR CD - the original Hughes album NTHEN1 - Signed.<br /><br />I didn't mean to insinuate that you are not doing great things! - it's just that Z records seem to be more vocal in their announcments - and it's a noice thing to see.<br /><br />When I produced my Witness Magazine a few years ago you were the only people that gave me any support! - I remember chatting on the phone for ages, discussing bands like Eyewitness and Crown of Thorns!<br /><br />Please dont feel dis-heartened - Now and Then are a MUCH better label than anything around at the moment and I challenge anyone else to say any different!<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Daren<br />(Rammy)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rammy</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2394#msg-2394</link><description><![CDATA[ Hi Everyone,<br />Not wanting to start a label war or anything and this is in no way intended as a `go` at Z RECORDS but I thought I should maybe point out that the very first GODS back in `93 was held at the RITZ in Manchester ( and the Woughton Centre in Milton Keynes ) so please don`t give us the criticism that we don`t put our money where our mouths are. No-one had ever done anything like that before and we put together a stunning line-up of acts, flew in the likes of Mark Free, Jeff Paris, Paul Laine, Shotgun Symphony etc to play their first ever UK shows. Just once it would be nice if we were given a bit of credit.<br /><br />Bye for now,<br />Mark]]></description>
<dc:creator>Mark Ashton</dc:creator>
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<title>RE: Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2389#msg-2389</link><description><![CDATA[ I agree, Z Records deserve some credit for putting their money where the proverbial mouth is and trying to get the scene attention on a wider scale. Hopefully, it will persuade other labels to make similar efforts.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Andrew Paul</dc:creator>
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<title>Z - Records</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2366#msg-2366</link><description><![CDATA[<br /><br />Here Here ! - I'd just like to add my tuppence worth and say a bellowing thanks! to Z records for doing what other labels just babble about!<br /><br />I'll be there too!<br /><br /><br />Rammy.]]></description>
<dc:creator>Rammy</dc:creator>
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<title>Z 2001 MOVES TO LARGER VENUE</title><link>http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,2314,2314#msg-2314</link><description><![CDATA[ Man, it's about time a label put there money where there mouth is, congratulations to Z Records for trying to push their shows to a larger audience with their show to be held at THE RITZ in Manchester.<br />I'll be definitely going to Z2001 after this years show [and the Gods if it happens].<br />The best thing is that the line up is nearly all acts whom I have not seen yet, does anyone know of any other acts whom maybe appearing ? I mailed Z yesterday and they said Danny Danzi, Damned Nation and Savannah would not be on next years show,<br />so who will play ?<br />]]></description>
<dc:creator> Z Rock Dude</dc:creator>
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