I reposted this because there were lots of responces about this topic.(I also enjoyed reading this). If you are interested in what has been discussed so far please check the part 1 discussion posted by Copious K9 on May 5. Enjoy another round of talk. Regards Susumuhttp://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1316#msg-1316Fri, 24 May 2013 02:30:00 +1000 Phorum 5.2.16 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1360#msg-1360 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1360#msg-1360
Self, self, self that's what really matters isn't it?]]> Surfpunk NoticeboardWed, 17 May 2000 06:59:06 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1351#msg-1351 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1351#msg-13511. MP3s are not near CD quality; they are mostly closer to radio
quality. You can increase the density so that the MP3s are CD quality
but you also get the MP3s taking up the same disk space as WAVs.
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I've made copies of many cds and have yet to hear any difference whatsoever from the original. Maybe someone else's hearing is better than mine, but I cant tell the difference. As for burning MP3's on a cd, they sound better than they did in MP3 format.

Big Bow Wow wrote:
2. MP3s do not play in 99.9% of off the retailer shelf CD players in car
stereos, in boom boxes, in stand alone units, ad nauseum. MP3s are
mostly for playing on PCs, which most people won't take to the beach, to
the pool, in their car, etc.
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True, MP3's will not play on a conventional cd player, however if you convert the MP3 to a WAV file, then burn the WAV to a CDR, you can listen to it anywhere. Any the quality is very good from what I can tell.

I can see where Metallica are coming from in their lawsuit, they dont want people making copies of the studio released cds. With CD recorders becoming more inexpensive, there's really no way to stop it from happening unless they encode something into the original cd to prevent it from being copied.

I'm sure everyone who enjoys music, including the artists themselves, have made there own greatest hits tapes/cds. I hope they continue to let people do this and do not stop it.

Smiley]]> Mr. Smiley NoticeboardTue, 16 May 2000 20:06:12 +1000 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1343#msg-1343 http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/read.php?1,1316,1343#msg-1343
They say that they do not mind if "fans" trade tapes from their shows (maybe because they sound so shitty live, just a guess, I would not know). Now if one of these fans is a radio DJ and plays the live tapes on air that might be another story; they certainly would want royalities for their copy righted material being played on the radio. What Metallica are really doing is making an exception for live tapes, since tapes were very important to their early success (I read that somewhere). For them to not make an exception for MP3s is arbitrary (and well within their rights to make.) Arbitrary is arbitrary.

If they really want everybody to pay to hear their music, then they need to break in doors and catch friends playing Metallica CDs for their friends. And if some guy is cruising the mall parking lot blairing out Metallica, they need to get all of those innocent bystanders to cough up some money for getting an earful.

Back to what Metallica clearly does not understand:

1. MP3s are not near CD quality; they are mostly closer to radio quality. You can increase the density so that the MP3s are CD quality but you also get the MP3s taking up the same disk space as WAVs.

2. MP3s do not play in 99.9% of off the retailer shelf CD players in car stereos, in boom boxes, in stand alone units, ad nauseum. MP3s are mostly for playing on PCs, which most people won't take to the beach, to the pool, in their car, etc.

3. MP3s are a great promotional tool for bands like Metallica which DO NOT get their music played on the radio or MTV. If Metallica is expecting "word of mouth" to get it done for all of their promotional needs, they are in for a big surprise, when 300,000 would be fans take a pass on their next CD and openly bad mouth the band.

4. Most people do not have space on their hard drives to hold every song Metallica has ever released.

5. The 300,000 would be fans were dumb enough to use their real names. The 300,000 dumb fans have not change their online names and will never use Napster again.

6. All of the file names with the letters M-E-T-A-L-L-I-C-A really did have music directly from one of their releases (versus MP3s of their live material that they claim they don't care about). This is certainly something they can not 100% proof.

7. MP3s are not the reason why their last CD release did not meet sales expectations. Of course 300,000 fans could have chipped in to buy one copy of their last CD to play on their 300,000 portable PCs with 50 Gb hard drives and hifi speakers that they take everywhere they go. Yep, the drugs have definitely take their toll.

I would not be surprised to find out that none of the members of Metallica own a PC, surf the net, or have even heard a MP3. Or maybe just like their moms warned them playing alll that loud music has made them go deaf (and dumb).
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Enjoy another round of talk.

Regards

Susumu]]> Susumu NoticeboardMon, 15 May 2000 13:56:08 +1000